Posts by arko

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I'll have to think about that and get back to you

by donny in

yesterday afternoon i was speaking to my jw neighbor and he managed to get on the topic of "unity" that defines true christianity.

i then said "what if you have some in a church who believes certain days are more holy than others and yet others who think all days are the same?

is that acceptable?".

arko_n9ne

he will cite issues of the watchtower with articles on why holidays are unchristian.

he wont reference the scripture you asked about because the articles wont. itd be counterproductive.

anything he offers will be ver batum from what his superior officer tells him. he will try to talk around your point and red herring you until either you get frustrated and end the discussion or you become so numb you actually believe he has a point.

and if you sit through his sloppy mess and press the plain text of the scripture he will end the conversation and view you as an apostate.

is this accurate

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You may be a jw if.....

by just Ron in

you may be a jw ........if you spent last saturday traped in a car with at least 4 other people you may be a jw.. if you have sat through a sheparding call where you were told you are unworthy you may be a jw.. if you have alienated your worldly relatives with your preaching you may be a jw.. if you have ticked some one of buy knocking on their door on one of their religous holidays you may be a jw.. if you think the governing body is goods direct channel you may be a jw.. if you have no clue when this system is going to end you may be a jw.. .

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ron.

arko_n9ne

no offense to any aussie or kiwi reading this. but there was a man who refered to australian money as real currency.

i feel there needs to be a correction made.

australian currency is the queens dollar which means australian currency isnt australian currency. unless i missed the removal of the union jack from the flag.

not an insult when i say this. just facts. the global market doesnt waver and grow by the australian version of the pound. if the yankee dollar loses value the world shakes. if a euro loses value the world shakes. if a ruple loses value the world shakes.

but there arent any reports of australia shaking the global economy when their money loses value.

so as not to hijack a thread

if you think the watchtower is incapable of making mistakes. defend their errors by saying people make mistakes. then look a study in the eye and make the claim the watchtower society has never made a mistake...you are a jw

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Thoughts and Opinions on the VAA?

by arko_n9ne in

as i've posted multiple times before, i am new to many of the aspects of wts scandals so a couple weeks ago, i was on youtube and heard of a group concept from tim kilgore called the vaa (vast apostate army).. personally, i like the concept of former witnesses and anti-watchtower proponents uniting to stand against the wrong doings of the organization.

i would like their rally in a few years to succeed.

if things look promising enough, i more than likely will go.. but honestly, i don't know much about the vaa, and since it's not a concept with that "new car smell" i imagine people have more infor to offer.. i saw on older posts that witnesses are not fans of the idea of anyone banding together en masse against them, as they go to the lengths of calling the vaa a terrorist organization (though no acts of violence or tyranny have been committed or threatened).. so if anyone can offer insight into this group, it would help a man know if it's a group worth rallying with.. .

arko_n9ne

@Tuesday Sweeney's post is blank. I've got no firewalls and nothing shows up.

I am going to sound weird here, but holy cow! Tim Kilgore posted on my thread! I'm honored.

There are only a handful of ex-JW's who can prove they opened the eyes of an active J-dub. Even fewer who can point to a website with a transcript and confirmation video of the conversation that did the job.

And Tim Kilgore, you sir, are the few and the proud!

Even one of my brothers-in-law (a 24 year year baptized Witness) gets upset by that name, and we're across the country in North Texas. THAT is power.

Kudos and thank you for the honor.

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This makes the "birther" issue pale by comparison....

by Glander in

read this, it's short - very interesting.. .

stolen ssn# 042-68-4425. .

an intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose.

arko_n9ne

i was born in connecticut. raised and lived there with a smile for the first 19 years of my life.

i have an 043 social security number.

when i run a credit check i find there is a mexican woman in california with my social security number. now instinctively i think identity theft.

doing some phone calls and emailing i learned she is a california native. she got her social in connecticut when she was younger. they gave her mine.

the difficulty in proving identity theft is that this mistake happens so often that its near impossible to differentiate the two events.

so any who try to discredit obama or push that foreign born nonsense can save it for indoctrinating their kids.

not saying its the posters intent to push this claim as itd already been explained by him. but someone will come across this thread and try to use that nonsense as a viable argument for denouncing the president.

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Thoughts and Opinions on the VAA?

by arko_n9ne in

as i've posted multiple times before, i am new to many of the aspects of wts scandals so a couple weeks ago, i was on youtube and heard of a group concept from tim kilgore called the vaa (vast apostate army).. personally, i like the concept of former witnesses and anti-watchtower proponents uniting to stand against the wrong doings of the organization.

i would like their rally in a few years to succeed.

if things look promising enough, i more than likely will go.. but honestly, i don't know much about the vaa, and since it's not a concept with that "new car smell" i imagine people have more infor to offer.. i saw on older posts that witnesses are not fans of the idea of anyone banding together en masse against them, as they go to the lengths of calling the vaa a terrorist organization (though no acts of violence or tyranny have been committed or threatened).. so if anyone can offer insight into this group, it would help a man know if it's a group worth rallying with.. .

arko_n9ne

As I've posted multiple times before, I am new to many of the aspects of WTS Scandals so a couple weeks ago, I was on youtube and heard of a group concept from Tim Kilgore called the VAA (Vast Apostate Army).

Personally, I like the concept of former Witnesses and anti-Watchtower proponents uniting to stand against the wrong doings of the Organization. I would like their rally in a few years to succeed. If things look promising enough, I more than likely will go.

But honestly, I don't know much about the VAA, and since it's not a concept with that "new car smell" I imagine people have more infor to offer.

I saw on older posts that Witnesses are not fans of the idea of anyone banding together en masse against them, as they go to the lengths of calling the VAA a terrorist organization (though no acts of violence or tyranny have been committed or threatened).

So if anyone can offer insight into this group, it would help a man know if it's a group worth rallying with.

Thank you,
~Ryan Kent

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My JW Brother-in-Law's Crisis of Conscience

by arko_n9ne in

me and my brother in law share a computer at home.

we have different accounts and for the life of me, i still don't know his password.. but it hasn't stopped me from putting "apostate" literature on his desktop screen.

i am an amateur it geek who knows the ins and outs of computers, so i don't look twice at things like passwords.. anyway, a few months ago, i slipped three files onto his desktop.

arko_n9ne

steve2 and i are opening new doors to understanding on this thread. wow.

i hope the jwn public can use this thread in understanding that we all make mistakes. none of us are immune to miscommunication and misinterpretation. clearly a human flaw the watchtower can capitolize on.

but what sets us apart from the watchtower drones has been proven here. we admit our flaws. we dont blame others for our mistakes. and we come closer to understanding truth than a jw with a lifetime membership ever will.

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My JW Brother-in-Law's Crisis of Conscience

by arko_n9ne in

me and my brother in law share a computer at home.

we have different accounts and for the life of me, i still don't know his password.. but it hasn't stopped me from putting "apostate" literature on his desktop screen.

i am an amateur it geek who knows the ins and outs of computers, so i don't look twice at things like passwords.. anyway, a few months ago, i slipped three files onto his desktop.

arko_n9ne

@skeeter1 lmao. i get that question alot. what's wrong with it?

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Acts 17, where's the organization, guys?!

by arko_n9ne in

i was listening to the radio today.

kdkr dallas.

they were playing a q&a with ravi zacharias and he pointed out a passage in acts 17 that i was unfamiliar with, but it rung some bells in my head.. acts 17:24,25 (nwt): "the god that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this one is, lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples,neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all [persons] life and breath and all things.".

arko_n9ne

I was listening to the radio today. KDKR Dallas. They were playing a Q&A with Ravi Zacharias and he pointed out a passage in Acts 17 that I was unfamiliar with, but it rung some bells in my head.

Acts 17:24,25 (NWT): " The God that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples, neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all [persons] life and breath and all things."

Something...about this...is odd.

The meaning behind the passage is that Paul finds idolatry detestable and it telling them that God the Creater is one, not many. He doesn't live in a lavish building. And He isn't taking your offerings of food and sacrifice. He is the maker. He doesn't want anything from us He made.

But at the same time, it's ground-breaking in it's very wording. He does not dwell in manmade temples, so the necessity to attend the Kingdom Hall (or any church) is not for finding Him. He doesn't live there. He is above all, delivering His Word. You find God in His Word.

And in His Word, at what is called Acts 17:25, "neither is he attended (served, worshipped) to by human hands as if he needed anything. The concept of serving Him through an Organization is unscriptural. The Lord doesn't need an organization. His Word is available to the masses. Before the printing press, it was scrolls and leaf. Before that, His Word was on stone. Before that, His Word was word of mouth.

When you take into the account of a global resurrection and the opportunity for those who did not know God to truly KNOW God, the current idea of preaching His Word to the world isn't the big picture. It's not necessary. Not if most everyone gets a second chance to learn His Word (or a first in most cases).

Regardless of the double talk, why is it that Acts 17:24,25 are untouched by the WTS? Why are there so many passages in the NWT that remain coherent enough to break the temple of false gods that is the Organization?

~Ryan Kent

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Circuit Leasing selling on JW.ORG ????

by yknot in

so i was poking around jw.org a lil recently...... noticed this advertisement was still present in the 'privileged' section (ie you gotta have login access).

this was posted on jw.org a little over a year ago (as shown in pic) but since it is still viewable......figured it is fair-game for jwn fodder.

thoughts?????.

arko_n9ne

@sooner7nc lmao to the sadness of the reality. how many cars are named after something pagan or unchristian? Isn't it ironic/hypocritical for a JW to ride around in a Taurus?

@outlaw do you have a terabit hd for all those pics? you must have raped the hell out of your clipart when you first got it. lol

@yknot why does the reader have to "discreetly" pass on that information? If they were discreet with those conditions for purchase, they won't get too many buyers. I imagine an overseer car to smell like leather and rubbing alcohol. Anyone else get that feeling?

Honestly, I love me a '67 Chevy Impala, but if the WTS was selling one in mint condition for any price, I'd tell them to "gfts." Imagine not being brainwashed and offering money to this corporate real estate scam.

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Does Jehovah Still Call Black People the "No-No" Word?

by arko_n9ne in

i feel the title is an attention-grabber, but in no means am i looking to start racial tension on jwn.. i know in the past, at least to the 50's from what i've read, the watchtower society has been very demeaning toward people of a less alabaster pigment.

in one instance saying white people were superior and god blessed them that way for good reason.. however, i have not been able to find an official statement from them in any of their printed works that either clears up or apologizes and further corrects that bold standing.. so, to those much wiser than me, is there an official statement from the watchtower identifying people of different race as equal?

and if not, to the ex/current brothers and sisters who are of an "ethnic" background, what are your feelings on the society's derrogatory statements being left unchanged 60-100 years later?.

arko_n9ne

Thank you kindly, Mary.

Your information has verified theories I've had, and opened doors that were once closed.

arko_n9ne

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