I must admit when I saw the picture I was shocked. Here in the UK a child's identity is protected at all costs. Why would a picture be posted? Surely her identity should be totally off limits. And if it's not her then why is it being used? I don't know enough details about the case to be able to comment on it but I do know what a terrible thing it is that has happened whatever the outcome. I just feel very uncomfortable about the picture.
tornapart
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Steven Unthank: What do we really know?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.
my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.
bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.
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What could trigger a large proportion of JWs at once that this religion is a scam
by Mr Facts ini am just thinking if there could ever be anything that would raise consciousness in the minds of millions of jws that this a completely hoax.
what could spark millions of them at once, any thoughts?..
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tornapart
Selling their property, sticking the proceeds in a hedge fund (which they've been looking at) for a quick gain. Doesn't work out, they lose millions... all comes crashing down... R&F left reeling from the scandal....
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the Ireland branch--> issues over the years
by WildeLover inhi all.
the irish branch has had lots of drama over the years from john may in the 1980s to the recent removal of practically all the branch committee in the mid noughties to its being closed down quite recently.. i heard on the grapevine that two of the branch committee had actually come to physical blows and there was blood on the carpet.. also many many witnesses spoke of the totalitarian environment there.. does anyone have anything further to corroborate or add to this?.
wildelover.
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tornapart
Love Father Ted too Cedars! I can just imagine a punchup between the Brit and the Irish!!... I can just imagine the Brits wanting to 'take over'.. isn't that what they've always done? (and I confess to being a Brit LOL)
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jwfacts.com
by allyouneedislove ini had a few comments to make regarding paul grundy's jwfact.com website.
these comments are in no way meant to defend jws, but only to point out illogical statements.
i have actually found his website to be quite informative.. .
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tornapart
At the end of the day the malawians had no real choice... be persecuted and even die now for loyalty to 'Jehovah's organisation' or be damned forever... what kind of choice is it?
The mexicans were left to feel it was 'up to their conscience'.
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ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AT BROOKLYN
by The Searcher inthe 2012 calendar encourages all to examine "for family discussion" aspects of the covenants.
do that - but base your study on the bible only, and then you will form a true understanding of the covenants, especially the new covenant.
on the january/february page, this question is asked, "would abraham's seed prove to be just one individual, or would it be a composite seed?".
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tornapart
Baltar.. it is in the bible research section, so I guess yeah.. LOL There are still some of us left..
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The great unanswered question - WHO chose the Governing Body to serve as representatives?
by cedars inwho is the governing body?.
put simply, the governing body purports to be a small group of anointed men (currently numbering 7) who represent a much larger group (numbering the thousands) of anointed individuals living on earth today.
in nearly every reference to their position of oversight over the worldwide brotherhood, the governing body refer to themselves as being representatives.... .
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tornapart
Cedars, I just checked out your 'makeweight scenario', and thought you made some good points. I have tried it myself once or twice as well as the how can you have such a thing as 'present truths'.. truth is truth, it never changes. Only lies change.
What a shame your thread got seriously hijacked. All I read after the first page was insults being hurled around and obscenities. Could you repost it and hopefully it might get the respect it deserves?
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ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AT BROOKLYN
by The Searcher inthe 2012 calendar encourages all to examine "for family discussion" aspects of the covenants.
do that - but base your study on the bible only, and then you will form a true understanding of the covenants, especially the new covenant.
on the january/february page, this question is asked, "would abraham's seed prove to be just one individual, or would it be a composite seed?".
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tornapart
They use the argument of the two classes in Israel, natural and proselytes so they have something to back their claims on of two classes now... the anointed with their mediator and then everyone else with no mediator...
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Sometimes writing to myself is therapy. I thought I would share
by Indian Larry ingrowing up.
taught that the whole world will end any time.
everyone in the town i live in will die.
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tornapart
Love that song Designs!
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Things in the past that show you that your doubts started earlier than you thought
by sabastious ini was just talking to my wife this morning about underlining or highlighting the wt paragraphs.. when i was 13 years old i would fight with my dad because i refused to highlight the answers.. the reason was because i wanted my comment to be genuine.
i felt that highlighting the "answer" made me lean on just using that as a crutch and not truly putting it in my own words.. i still hold that argument now, and i am 26. the only reason you would ever have to highlight something in a study book would be if you needed to remember it, maybe it is fairly complicated or subtle information that could be easily forgotten.. so many times in the wt the "question" has the same phrase that's in the paragraph!
it's literally like playing connect the dots.. so what i would do is not highlight during the family study.
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tornapart
Great thread! I remember in my teens in the 70's we were doing all those 'prophecy' books in the book study and I could never get my head round the way all the bad stuff applied to Christendom and all the good stuff to the 'anointed'.. the 'Jeremiah' class, the 'Elijah' class, and the Revelation book, how the angels 7 trumpets applied to 7 conventions in the 20's.... just never made any sense at all to me! I used to hate going to those studies...
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Sometimes writing to myself is therapy. I thought I would share
by Indian Larry ingrowing up.
taught that the whole world will end any time.
everyone in the town i live in will die.
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tornapart
I understand completely! 2nd gen born-in, can't fade, it's soul destroying.