Posts by tornapart

So far... I know it's not much but it gives me a buzz... wishing my 'worldy' friends a happy birthday. (Can't do much more as I'm still 'in' and have family all in).

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Conspiracy Theorists Vindicated?

by metatron in

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http://www.blacklistednews.com/new_studies%3a_%e2%80%98conspiracy_theorists%e2%80%99_sane%3b_government_dupes_crazy%2c_hostile/27293/0/38/38/y/m.html.

actually, i think creating conspiracies is one of the primary products of modern government.

if citizens aren't responsible and involved enough, then crafted lies follow.. .

A 'conspiracy theorist' is simply someone who doesn't accept everything at face value and doesn't naively believe everything the government tells them. Sure some things are over the top but it would be unwise to believe that the government tells nothing but the truth.

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What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?

by minimus in

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there are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..

tornapart

The 'overlapping' generation(s).....

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Open letter Re: Mr. Bowen, Mrs. Anderson

by Prime in

"jws leaders need to mandate elder bodies to uniformly report abuse to the authorities no matter what jurisdiction; prohibit elders from being involved in any investigative process to decide guilt or innocence in place of the authorities; do away with the two-witness rule to determine, as if they were magistrates, guilt or innocence of someone accused; prohibit so-called repentant molesters from engaging in the door-to-door ministry, and always inform the congregation if a convicted or confessed molester is meeting with them.

" -barbara anderson .

this is another reason why the watchtower society doesn't require that the elders uniformly report abuse to the authorities no matter what jurisdiction.

tornapart

You're right in saying that it's a 'societal problem', but when people are in leadership positions then those people are in positions of responsibilty. Especially towards the vulnerable.

Just recently the CofE recognised it's severe failings towards protecting children and have expressed remorse over it and a determination to change things.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23215388

Why can't the WTS do the same?

As for Barbara, she's been involved with this for many many years. Ever since the feedback she had from the articles she wrote for Awake about child abuse and realised how horrendous the problem was. She knows what she's talking about!

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Now that I am out, which bible should i read? Feeling free at last!

by Freethinking76 in

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so, now that i am out for good, which bible should i read?

there is no way i will read the wt one..so i still want to have a relationship with god but don't know how to choose a bible.

it is very hard to dewired yourself and ,sometimes i feel that i don't have a relationship with him.the what ifs come and go still.last night i was up all night reading and researching , can't shake off the shock still to know ttatt.

tornapart

I like to use biblos.com for comparison of various translations but I'm planning to get myself a KJV, NIV, Holman study bible and the Wycliffe NT. In time maybe some others.

I really don't like the NWT anymore.

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Do you think "Blondie" is addicted to reading Watchtowers and Awakes?

by booker-t in

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i remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.

i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.

i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.

tornapart

Thanks to Blondie's breakdown every week of the WT I can sit in the meeting (I am still in for family reasons) and I can ask myself 'what would Blondie make of this'. It helps me think critically and see the propaganda and control clearly between the saccharine words.

Sometimes I see different things than she does but it amounts to the same thing. She helps so many of us who are trapped inside not to fall for the propaganda each week. As well as being able to seemingly pull articles out of thin air where someone needs to find it and has been unable to.

Blondie is a diamond!

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DEEP WRINKLES!!!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

any advice about what really works for deep wrinkles/ sun damage?

the new system is not here, and i worked outside for years without adequate protection from the sun.

i don't want to be overly-concerned about looks because we all age.

tornapart

Actually I think guys look quite attractive with a few wrinkles myself... more distinguished looking. Us women can't get away with it so easily (more's the pity). Suncream is really important though in the summer, you don't want to get skin cancer.

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DEEP WRINKLES!!!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

any advice about what really works for deep wrinkles/ sun damage?

the new system is not here, and i worked outside for years without adequate protection from the sun.

i don't want to be overly-concerned about looks because we all age.

tornapart

Avon anti-wrinkle creams DD... just don't tell the wife..

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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!

by Crazyguy in

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ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.

the theory of major evolution is crap!

the theory is falling apart.

tornapart

LOL Crazyguy... you're either brave or reckless... HOW DARE YOU SAY EVOLUTION IS CRAP!! hahah

One thing always puzzles me. When watching some really interesting nature documentaries, the evolution believing presenter uses the word 'design' or 'designed'. I've noticed it many times, David Attenborough has said it, Brian Cox has said it, Chris Packham has said it and others. How does evolution 'design' something? It's like giving some kind of inanimate process an intelligence of sorts.