What have you read on the subject recently? Nothing yet... I'm too busy enjoying myself by reading a Jeffrey Archer novel. Sorry!
tornapart
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
I agree with that too Cofty. When I started out I didn't believe in evolution, now I do, based on evidence. But science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. Nor can it give us the answers about abiogenesis. -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
Everyone has to come to their own conclusions. Yes, certain christian religions do criticise other religions but do they have that right? I don't think anyone has the right to decide what someone else should believe, it's a personal thing. Religion is very very wrong to oppress others and inflict their beliefs on others. As for faith, I think it's a very personal thing. -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
I agree
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54
God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
Why is believing God exists lying to oneself? In the universe there is order, complexity and precise mathematical formulae. That evidence tells me that God exists. -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
Who says that faith is pretending to know the answers? It's the opposite. Faith is all about NOT knowing the answers. Science can give us the answers to many things but there are many questions it can't answer. -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
Yes, but only after he felt there had to be something more than just science. Science doesn't answer ALL the questions. There were things he felt science couldn't tell him, he explored those areas and came to his own conclusions. You say he came to his conclusions by reading C S lewis, yet you came to your conclusions by reading Dawkins... (and others) -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
But indoctrinated by what? He started off as an atheist but came to his conclusions after years of scientific research. -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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tornapart
Cofty... do you believe that Francis Collins has been indoctrinated? -
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Challenging JWs at Cult Carts
by cofty inif i have time i always talk to jws when i see a cult cart.. they are in a public forum promoting a harmful ideology therefore they are fair game.
having said that, the individual jws on the trolley are not the enemy so i think it's better to keep it as friendly and non-confrontational as possible.. being realistic no jw is going to admit they are wrong because of something we say to them on the street but don't underestimate the long-term effect of doubts.. so what are your ideas for how to approach them?.
personally i like to use the literature on the cart.
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tornapart
One thing I've noticed that many of the r&f Jws don't always agree with or like and feel disturbed over is the idea of God killing billions of people at Armageddon. They kind of put it to one side as though they'll get into paradise without having to think about the nastiness of it all. When they are made to face it head on they'll use the 'Jehovah sees hearts and he'll decide'. But it doesn't connect with idea that only JWs will survive Armageddon. There's a lot of CD going on with them. Ask them if they believe God is going to kill billions of people and watch them squirm.