Khaleesi
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What shocking stories did you ever hear about?
by Truthexplorer inas a pre-awakened ms, i heard of 2 stories that i found very shocking at the time.
please keep in mind, i was following wt blindly at the time and was part of what i thought was the true religion.
the first shocking story was when i attended a large meeting for elders and ministerial servants covering our circuit.
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Khaleesi
At one convention many years ago, since it was held in a well known city arena where a huge gay parade is celebrated, in socal...anyway during the 3 day convention some young "brothers" went to another part of the arena, i believe it was around the performing arts center, it's all connected... they destroyed a stage for one of the gay parades event...the convention coordinator committe had to repair it & rebuild it.... it was insane parents didn't care where their kids were & an announcement was made to parents, I'm talking 15-17 yrs .... WT almost lost the whole venue to host them -
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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.
by Stepford Wife inhey ya'll!
i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.
actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.
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Khaleesi
Don't meet with them, just tell them right now is not a good time & when it is YOU will let them know, say you are having anxiety problems being among big crowds & at this time you need your privacy & appreciate their concern..... DO NOT MEET WITH THEM....they are trying to fill you out no matter what!!! -
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Books I read when I deprogrammed
by OrphanCrow inblondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.
canadian exjws from calagary.
an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.
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Khaleesi
Books I've read:
1 Crisis of Conscience
2 in search of christian freedom
3 My Christian Quest, by Ron Fry
4. Captives of a concept: great reference book
5. 50 years a Watchtower slave
6. Combating cult mind control
7. The bible unearthed- I just got this book so I'm excited to read it
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How Did My Book Come About?
by new boy inhe had a strange look on his face.
in fact, one physic reading put many of the pieces of the puzzle together for me.
“i think about the war all the time, why is that?” she said.
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Khaleesi
I also have had many Dejavu moments & experiences til this day, at least 2xs a month or more often at times, it's strange, I do not know what it means but there are many people who do not have them.... i also have a strong German connection & also a Greek fascination, more into Greek mythology, i visited Greece a few years ago & just felt I've been there before, i knew my way around the Athens, Santorini, Rhodas, etc.... now you got me wondering
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New Light: Clap when it is given a Reinstatement ad
by TheTruthBR ina new letter was posted in jw.org to the elders who are under the brazilian branch:.
january 25, 2016to all bodies of eldersref .
: clap when given a readmission addear brothers:we would like to inform you about a recent adjustment.
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Khaleesi
So if its a pedophile or child molester/abuser gets reinstated we can clap??
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Who can you trust to admit you have doubts?
by MrMonroe in(that is, doubts).
in margaret atwood's "the handmaid's tale", a futuristic story of life inside a repressive, abusive big brother-style society tightly controlled by religious fundamentalists, there's a passage in which the protagonist is alone with another woman at a state-controlled centre where prayers are generated -- then printed out and read out -- by a machine.
the other woman asks, in barely more than a whisper, "do you think god listens to these machines?
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Khaleesi
Great post..
It's really hard i don't think you can trust anyone, even the ones who you believe are very smart & intelligent....they want to remain blind unless they see it for themselves. ...
Recently I asked a old timer JW, he, was an elder, if he had an older publication book (he always kept an extensive library if old WT books been a JW for over 45 years & is 2nd generation JW), his response? "Be careful of apostates they twist things in the older publications that we don't believe in anymore".... i backed off, obviously he is not trustworthy to discuss my doubts too & many are like that in JW land... you know by their responses & be careful
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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 init's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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Khaleesi
I avoid using it & roll my eyes when people say it.... i want to yell back, it's not!!
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How do I handle this situation?
by BarelyThere inhey everyone.
i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.
there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.
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Khaleesi
Hi, I don't have much advice but only what I went thru. ...when I was df'ed my ex husband was getting information of my "spiritual" status from people he knew from the congregation I was going to while being DF, I moved out of the congregation we went together. ... so during this time my ex was being aggressive with me went I would pick up my son, he would take my car keys & demand to speak with me, he would know when I miss mtgs, get their late, etc, this created alot of violent behavior on his part, he wanted to know what I was doing, who I was hanging out with, etc, we were separated leading to divorce... he was spying on me at my home... his aggressive behavior was getting out of line, went to my elders in my congregation if they can help me to his elders to talk to him &tell him to back off from me & the only communication should be about our son.... Elders response: " we can't do anything or help you because your not part of the congregation because your DF"
So don't expect any help from them honestly, especially if you are a woman who committed adultery, if you were a man you would get more mercy but not as a woman since in their "Men" minds they view it as " well those are the consequences of your actions"... do what The searcher said, move congregations you have a better chance being reinstated sooner from a different congregation that haven't "judge" you & don't know much abt you, they will push ur old congregation for reinstatement especially if you play your cards right & do the "right" things, as soon as you move to new cong, first meeting talk to an elder & say "brother, I'm a returning lost sheep, I'm dF & will be attending this congregation from now on" ... attend all mtgs, studying- highlight your watchtower & publications in all colors & raise it where elders can see, sit near the elders... then you can request reinstatement, quoting all scriptures you can find abt repentance & how God is the one to judge us because he sees the heart which men cant.... that is what i did & it worked for me, the old congregation didn't want to reinstate me it was 3 years, my elders push them to....
Remember its not only playing the game, but also playing the man....
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My life After Bethel Part 1
by new boy inthe day i left it was pouring rain........i really screwed up, i found out the night before, as i was packing things up, that i had way under estimated how much stuff i had.
i had two large suit cases (that i could barely shut the lids on) and a large army duffel bag.
i would guess about 200 pounds of shit......my van was in rhode island with the engine out of it.
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Khaleesi
Loving your experiences, soo captivating. .. keep them coming, it is 50 yrs of it so many more to come!
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A 17 Year Old's Journey To Freedom
by DLou278 inhey guys!
i have written an article on my exit from the watchtower.
i am 17 years old and leaving has been the best decision that i have ever made.
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Khaleesi
Hi, your story is soo inspiring and I am soo happy your family got out with you. You are very very smart & still young enough to get an education & live a successful happy life. So true what you said the regime of the JW life burns out people & before you realize it you waste many years in a perfunctory life that leads to depression & no satisfaction, living in a bubble constantly...
Your reasoning & the conclusions you came to at this age are truly remarkable & very encouraging... welcome to your freedom! I hope my son grows up as insightful & intelectual as you at that age!