Posts by wallsofjericho

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IS GOD REAL? HOW DO YOU KNOW?

by still thinking in

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this is an honest question on my part.

someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.

in fact, it was a turning point for me.

Explain in a FEW word's why the 607 date is incorrect.

by XPeterX in

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"if you can't explain it simply you don't understand it wel enough" albert einstein.

wallsofjericho

ann Omaly's point is good and quick.

70 years of servitude did take place, but only 50 years of desolation occured. Russel mixed these up.

just stating this plainly might not flip out a JW too badly because it actually acknowledges 70 years and they won't know enough about the subject to fire a quick retort back at you. they will feel stupid for not knowing how to respond, which is normal since they are stupid... especially when it comes to anything deeper than fluffy bunny's and rainbows

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Absurd WT Control in April 2012 KM

by LostGeneration in

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yeah in the section on attending the convention, you will find this gem:.

"therefore, we should give attention to our dress and grooming while in the convention city, including when we check in at the hotel.

arriving in shorts and a t-shirt would not reflect dignity.".

wallsofjericho

if they are undignified when at assembly hotels, are they dignified on other occasions? or is it ok to dress in an undignified manner when doing things on non-meeting nights and non-assembly weeks? I suppose a humble brother would just play it safe and avoid shorts and T-shirts all together. One only needs to see this in the WT & Awake pictures, I mean it’s soooo obvious since the only guys wearing shorts and T-shirts are bad worldly kids tempting our poor young brothers with cigarettes and higher education....

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

wallsofjericho

I was told by family that it made more sense to them now, even though they didn't doubt the last teaching.

well just think how much more sense the NEXT generation teaching will make!

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9/11 Conspiracy nuts...60% of Americans are you KIDDING!!!!

by Witness 007 in

60% of americans in one servey think the government did it.....even though there is no sold evidence.

let me spell it out.....a huge airplane full of fuel hit the building plowing thru the steel supports, thousands of witnesses, and video fotage, it almost flew through the building with debris blowing out the other side.

although it appears in the footage there is alot of smoke but no fire, right?

wallsofjericho

#1 You don't need to melt steel to make a building fall. You only need to heat it enough. Heat weakens the strength of structural steel. Weaken it enough, and it will fail from the loads of the structure.

#2 The building did not fall at free fall speed.

when I worked in demolition we would cut beams all over an old factory, literally cut 80% right through them. We would underimine every support in the place, grab onto it with 45 ton excavators and the damn buildings would still stand there! When they finally gave way it would be in small sections after yanking on supports in that immediate area, they never just fell over at one time. It was just never that easy.

I'm not saying that the weight of the WTC would not have collapsed all at once, but to see them come straight down on top of themselves without virtually any twist or sway, that is hard to beleive from all that chaos came such a perfectly controlled demoltion.

Say what you will, but you cannot blame anyone for asking questions about these events. Not 1, not 2, but 3 perfect implosions that would have earned the best demolition experts on the planet recognition from peers for generations.

And we havent even talked about the vanishing airplane that hit the Pentagon. And anyone that claims the airplane engines melted instantly from the heat of their own fuel is not worth even having a conversation with about this.

Do I believe the US government did this? No. Do I believe Bin Laden did this? Yes. Do I also believe Americans with interest in war and oil were involved? Absolutely.

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I believe I just removed my last tie to the borg...

by TimothyT in

well thats it ladies and gents.

i levelled with the sister who continues to chat with me, telling her i will never return to the organisation and my reasons why.

i hope i didnt hurt her but i have done what i could never do and tell her things the way they absolutely are.

wallsofjericho

awesome

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What's the JW reaction to new 16 page mags????

by diamondiiz in

if you've been to the meeting when the letter was read, what was jw reaction????

just curious if it was just another sign that the end is nearer or did any wake up for a second to realize the corporation is downsizing due to costs..

wallsofjericho

this is a good distraction for the rank and file. now the talks will shift to proper use of the internet and not just all-out demonizing of it.

I wonder though how many of the 400,000 daily hits are actually just WBTS domains logging into the sight to perform organizational processes? we all know how manipulated statistics like these are

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What's the JW reaction to new 16 page mags????

by diamondiiz in

if you've been to the meeting when the letter was read, what was jw reaction????

just curious if it was just another sign that the end is nearer or did any wake up for a second to realize the corporation is downsizing due to costs..

wallsofjericho

"Look if you can't read this measly little portion of 'spiritual food' then you really are a pathetic little slacker!" = MORE GUILT!

AND if you can't go to 2 measley meetings a week instead of 3 AND if you can't aux pioneer at 50 hours per month instead of 60 AND you can't read 16 pages of Awake per month instead of the old-old 64 pages per month AND you can't read 16 pages per month of Watchtower instead of the old-old 64 per month AND you can't get to all 3 days of the District Convention instead of the old 8 days... well! You MUST be a horrible person! after all, you have it so easy!!!!

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What's the JW reaction to new 16 page mags????

by diamondiiz in

if you've been to the meeting when the letter was read, what was jw reaction????

just curious if it was just another sign that the end is nearer or did any wake up for a second to realize the corporation is downsizing due to costs..

wallsofjericho

Later someone may notice the mags are thinner

the brother giving our talk kept saying how this is not the Org shrinking back, that this is them being progressive and moving ahead. He even repeated that twice in the prayer and stumbled over his words. It was quite amusing.

Those Ive talked to were initially confused but when you tell them its a cost saving measure they usually say "oh, that makes sense". Funny how the letter never directly stated that as an issue, it was more about the positives of the website, blah blah blah.

Why can't the WTS just say "in an effort to save money, we are reducing the size of the magazines which just end up in the bin without being read anyway. Also, of the 400,000 hits on our website everyday, 357,000 is from our own worldwide bethel staff and the rest are from apostates pasting our bullshit on anti-cult forums."

This would have been much less confusing.

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So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

by garyneal in

after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

" the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

wallsofjericho

So what the CO coulda/shoulda/woulda said is probably something more like,

"Brothers and sisters, let me be perfectly clear on this vitally important point: We are now living in the time of the second group of anointed Christians--the ones who will see the start of the great tribulation, and--whose lives overlapped with the first group of anointed ones that were alive when the sign of Jesus' invisible presence became evident in 1914."

exactly.

even my friend (who totally worships the GB eventhough 2 years ago he literally asked me "what generation? what are you talking about?") said that his CO's statement could mean the new system TM could be yet 50 years away.

The irony of this is that the CO was trying to minimize thinking that the end could now be stretched far into the future, yet even the blindest dubbie I know saw through it. Yet he still said "the new system is probably only 50 years away at most"

:P

Coincidentally yesterdays watchtower stressed the "danger" of thinking too much. I don't think they need to worry about that too much is this guy's case