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  GEOFFREY JACKSON THE PERSONABLE FACE OF JW.ORG...BUT IT AIN'T OVER YET BUDDY

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  since geoffrey jackson's appearance before the australian royal commission on friday there has for some been an expressed feeling of anticlimax.

  it is as though he was given too much latitude to preach, to claim ignorance and to skirt questions.

  more to the point, as much as i myself thought i would never have expected to say this, gj actually came across as likeable and - don't throttle me please!

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  Dumplin-

  your reasoning with your wife was spot on
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  regarding Jacksons testimony.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone here re-watched that last day?

  the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

  and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

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  Quote:Jackson stated an apostate is someone who goes against the Bible. This is a lie. An apostate is someone who goes against the religion.

  
  

  remember ray franz DF announcement? The WT emphasized rays issue was not with the bible but with the organization

  what a blatant lie by Jackson
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  Sydney Morning Herald Headline about Compensation for Victims May Cause JW Organization to Gasp

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  geoffrey jackson's unfailingly diplomatic responses during friday's royal commission hearings have undoubtedly limited damage to the reputation of the jw organization - but i could never again imagine the watchtower and awake!

  magazines criticizing other religions over their responses to child sexual abuse within their parishes.

  too close for comfort.

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  These situations shouldn't be about money

  they should be about fixing flawed policies

  unfortunately money seems to be the only way to scare institutions enough to act

  i hate how litigious society is. But nobody is more letigious than the WTS. As much as I disagree with lawyers suing anyone over anything to see what sticks, the WTS is getting beat at its own game this time
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  Look out for a new congregation position for elders wives: Helper to the Elders

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  geoffrey jackson spent 20 minutes accepting the position that it is not scripturally prohibited for women to be used in the investigation process, although probably not the jc itself (he said he'd check the scriptures on that bit, but we can guess the outcome).. look out for the wives of elders jostling for and gaining these positions.

  there will be no better opportunity for gossip mongers to raise their status in the congregation than being officially involved in the intimate private business of others in the congregation.. think of the power they will have in advising the elders on a jc if she thinks the victim is credible, with her opinion, bias and embellishments on the details.

  i wouldn't fancy the chances of a victim who has previously fallen out with one of these 'helpers'.. whatever next, sisters handling microphones??!

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  99% of sisters DONT WANT privileges. They want a husband with status.

  this is how they are raised in the Org

  nothing of any significance will change

  sisters hold the doors open at assemblies now. We'll just see more of that stuff
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  We're All Going To Die

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  life has been busy, but i am now on 2 weeks vacation which allowed me some thinking room.

  and here's what's been on my mind.. we're all going to die.

  no matter what we do, our fate is sealed.

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  From an atheistic view death is not more harsh, rather life more precious

  in 100 years all of us will be dust in a grave

  so what could you possibly have to worry about?
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  Article in New Yorker magazine

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i guess this article will be appreciated within the jw community, being on the positive side when discussing blood transfusion.

  it is the first of three articles to be published in that prestigious magazine.. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine.

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  I saw a recent blood article flaunted by dubs that referred to blood as a liquid organ. Yet organ transplants are a conscience decision

  At the end of the day, the ONLY reason dubs prohibit blood is cause "the bible" (their interpretation) tells them too

  thats it

  they can try to sound all sciencey and medically but it's all smoke and mirrors.

  When science disagrees with God they reject science, when it agrees they applaude it. They only do what they're told by God=GB
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  G.B. & J.W.'s Becoming Clap-Happy

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the regional convention (national!!

  ) for scotland, mark sanderson elicited 13 rounds of applause during his closing talk, (for the least little things!

  ) plus a final one for his closing prayer!

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  I remember once old br. John Carey I think was his name, of the GB was speaking at the end of a DC and the audience was clapping constantly. At one point he tried to keep talking over the clapping then said "ok go ahead" and everyone giggled and then a huge applause ensued. So ridiculous
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  Leaving the org and marriage possibly ending

  by atacrossroads in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.

  i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.

  a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.

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  Kudos to having the gonads to tell your husband the truth

  i was terrified to tell my wife, so much so that when I did I actually capitulated and stated "in"

  i went the route of focusing on our family and marriage and my wife was amazed at what happiness we had without me being active or an uber-dub so she backed waaaay off and now we are very content living on the periphery of the religion.

  despite this, I often wonder what would have happened if I had the balls to stand my ground

  i have my reasons for doing what I did, but I commend you for standing your ground for your beliefs.
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  Kudos: for those of you who awakened with you significant others. You are so LUCKY!!!

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  like the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.

  you people are so lucky!!!.

  lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.

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  Tornintwo - that tactic works the other way around, that is a hubby that has awoke trying to engage his wife. This is the approach I took for my wife. She hasn't woke up, but she sees how good of s husband I am and admits it was after my epiphany about "the truth" it happened. Now she defends me and even though I live "still in" I miss 50%+ meetings, never go in service and enjoy life with my family.
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  They know the RC is going to be an issue: August Broadcast talk with Tony

  by leavingonthenextplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.

  the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.

  this talk is all about damage control.. .

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  As damming as this issue will be directly, I think an even bigger problem for the WTS is just the light shining on them in the global media arena.

  JWs will see this as persecution, but the WTS has always said the wild beast would turn on Babylon the great first and then they would all notice the JWs over there still preaching and then come after them.

  this shouldn't be represented as a trigger to the GT since it doesn't fit the chronology of old.

  HOWEVER this recent Assyrian attack teaching and coalition of nations has been situated perfectly by the WTS to lend scriptural legitimacy to this "persecution"

  how ironic they have sunk so low that the true organization is not attacked for their faith but rather for their neglectful policies on child abuse

  REALLY???