lance?.
you doing alright bro?
we miss you around here.
Lance my friend!
so good to hear your well.
I haven't been paying too much attention to the exJW world as it becomes less and less relevant to my current life
you have no idea how envious I am of you to be able to say that. that is a fantastic step forward.
thanks so much for stopping by and I would love to read your book when your good and ready to publish it
be happy
woj
(you have a PM)
lance?.
you doing alright bro?
we miss you around here.
Hey Randy,
thanks for update, I didnt realize how enveloped you are in your work of helping people. It's easy for us to take for granted the ones that put in so much time helping fix what the BOrg has broken.
to help your effort I just donated one month's award money for 13seconds.com
(don't worry about tax receipt, I'm still a JW, don't need any family memers finding a reciept and my accountant is a JW ;)
Keep up the good work my friend!
anyone else that wants to support Randy and what he's doing click here to make a one time donation
http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2669:support-free-minds&catid=56:all-static
woj
v?.
i miss your awesome videos and all the awesome work you did for us all!
no one has created videos exposing the watchtower society like you did.. i hope your ok bro.. .
hey Randy,
tx for info. I just hope he's okay?? I would hate to hear that something happened to him. I see his last activity on youtube was june 4, 2010. That's a long time to not even log in.
v?.
i miss your awesome videos and all the awesome work you did for us all!
no one has created videos exposing the watchtower society like you did.. i hope your ok bro.. .
i haven't seen anything new by him since ray franz died. before that it was just a quick vid about the leak of the District convention talk.
but thats be a year now? more?
lance?.
you doing alright bro?
we miss you around here.
sgoE
tx for update. maybe he'll stop in to say hi?
yes his vids are great....
lance?.
you doing alright bro?
we miss you around here.
Lance?
you doing alright bro? we miss you around here. Loved all your fantastic insight into the BOrg.
any chance you could give us an update of your life right now?
;)
v?.
i miss your awesome videos and all the awesome work you did for us all!
no one has created videos exposing the watchtower society like you did.. i hope your ok bro.. .
V?
where are you? are you ok? I miss your awesome videos and all the awesome work you did for us all! No one has created videos exposing the watchtower society like you did.
I hope your ok bro.
it is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
"This is where we start to enter another issue entirely, which is this - will the Society get desperate enough to "cook" the numbers in the worldwide report as their decline grows worse?..." Cedars, above
I have begun to suspect that the Watchtower Society has been 'cooking' their numbers for many decades, now...
Fudging them, at the very least.
oh the numbers are cooked for sure! statistics can be manipulated a million ways. when the WTS defines what a "land" is then they can make up any number of "lands" they want now can't they?
when both parents count 1 child as a study hows is reporting 2 studies totalling 2 hours of time and honest representation of what occured? (1 study and 1 hour)
babies are counted at kingdom halls as attendees on the tally. I have seen babies counted over a phone hook up b/c the baby was sleeping beside the care giver that was listening! we announce attendance numbers at assemblies and print the memorial attendance in the WT, how many of these are in diapers?
when a person drops down hundreds of magazines at laundry mats and bus stations and counts these as placements or worse yet return visits! how is the WTS placement tallies accurate?
numbers mean nothing when they are generated by the beneficiary of those numbers
it is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
it is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
1992 Nethinim to the Governing Body
this vanished as quickly as it came. If I recall Barb Anderson wrote about this on freeminds. I beleive some in the writing dept. got in shit for this.
Could someone remind us again what the "generation change" of teaching was in 1995/1996, and how it was different than the "overlapping" generation change of 2008-2011?
1995 saw the generation go from that of the 1914 generation to the "wicked generation". This was a major shift as there was no correllation between the two and the wicked generation had no temporal impact.
Interestingly, if you look at the current 2010 teaching of overlapping generations, it is essentially the same as the 1914 generation that freddie the oracle taught and the WTS kept till 1995. The only change between that generation and the current is that generation = overlapping contemporanious generations instead of just one 70-80 year generation.
All else is the same. This (overlapping) generation that saw the events of 1914 will by no means pass away until all these events occur. The WTS has just gone back to Freddie's 1914 generatin teaching but stretched it out to a 140-160 year term instead of a 70-80 year period
however, they used Freddie's 99 years as an example of a generation so applying this rule it could stretch out to 198 years from 1914. :P
