I suspect his biggest change would be not to tell me.
I have wondered this many times. Why did he tell you Kim? What did he hope to accomplish or get out of it?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Kim said:
he never expected “such a significant % of ex-JWs to so easily flip to being judgmental & self-righteous.”
Slimboyfat said:
Don’t forget that he invited people to judge for themselves, and make up their own mind, during his livestream.
Lloyd at 1:36.04 in your livestream you told us "I'll let the audience adjudicate." We have adjudicated and we adjudicate that you were wrong in what you did. To me cheating on your wife and leaving your family on Christmas is not my problem with you. If it had been just that I would have stayed with you because people cheat on their spouses every day and leave their children every day. My problem with you is that you potentially committed sexual abuse with a person who most likely was sexually abused and is forced to "preform" every day of their lives to keep money rolling in for their pimps and you say that you are against that in the WT when you are potentially doing that outside WT. You say you advocate for CSA/SA abuse victims when you are most likely doing that yourself. This is my problem. Others may have a problem with the other things.
CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I just watched Jake's video on YouTube. The stark contrast to Lloyd's livestream is extreme! He takes responsibility for what he has done. He doesn't blame anyone. Most of all the apologizes to the ones he wronged and even those that he doesn't know that he may have hurt. I got made love for you Jake.
Was it just me or was there in Lloyd's livestream an aura of superiority coming through?
Here are the 2 videos on question
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Edit: I can't seem to get the videos to post right. Jake's video is still up but the picture is saying it's not. Just click the picture and it will take you to the correct video.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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He’s known as altworldly.
The video Lloyd is speaking about is hereAlthough I have already seen altworldly's video, I rewatched the first 2 minutes exactly again. I found no lie whatsoever in those 2 minutes. If he gave this particular "evidence" to his lawyers, I bet they laughed their asses off! Is Lloyd thinking that altworldly lied about him not trying to cancel or defame him? If someone presented this "evidence" to a lawyer here in the United States, they would kick his ass out the door laughing. I have talked about Lloyd and this case to my nephew-in-law who is a lawyer, and he laughed his ass off! I thought he was going to die laughing! If this is the kind of "evidence" he has presented to his lawyers in Croatia no wonder his case is going nowhere.
Lloyd you are only making yourself out to be a laughingstock of the exjw community. The longer you go and stay with this shit the more it is going to spread to other communities. Are you willing to risk the whole of the internet laughing at you?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Okay. before this turns into a flame war let's give a person the benefit of the doubt. As I said, we can all change.
I agree with Thisismein1972. We have all made mistakes and then changed our minds later on. Just because DE KEK was pro Lloyd in the beginning does not give us the right to judge him now.
Also let's not lose focus on what this thread is about, James Lloyd Evans.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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A lot has happened since then and people are now seeing Lloyd for who he is.
This is what happened to me. It took me quite a few months to decide how I felt about the situation.
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Here he is Pr0ner I've found about it. It seemed to have happened in 2017. Very bizarre I've never heard anything like it!! He must have made very specific personal allegations. I've got to say this particular video is very restrained and I certainly can't see any problem with it at all. I'm really shocked. There's got to be more to it. He's not an exjw but he is a Christian it seems.
Its funny but this just came to mind. It is sort of like the roles are reversed now. In essence someone is coming up to the JW's door (cart) unannounced and uninvited trying to question them on what they believe. They (JW's) act just the way most of the people did when we were knocking on doors. Got to love that karma!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Given the recent absurd video made by some woman with a fake voice claiming her Bethelite cousin told her Lloyd was an undercover Watchtower mole
Can you please provide the link to this video you mention? I would love to see that one!
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Newsflash: if you make money by making yourself a public figure, you don't get to complain about being a public figure!
I thought that as well Simon. I was thoroughly shocked that she won this case. It does lend some credence to some of the JW's he is recording suing over it doesn't it? Or is this a case of a celebrity getting a different law outcome because of celebrity status?
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I just found a case that says that the "expectation of privacy" can apply in certain circumstances for pictures being released to the public. I would assume this would apply to videos as well.
This case though is of a celebrity (Naomi Campbell) having her picture taken of her coming out of a NA meeting in England. She sued the "Mirror" newspaper for publishing the story and picture.
10. In the proceedings Miss Campbell claimed damages for breach of confidence and compensation under the Data Protection Act 1998. The article of 7 February formed the main basis of a claim for aggravated damages. Morland J [2002] EWHC 499 (QB) upheld Miss Campbell's claim. He made her a modest award of £2,500 plus £1,000 aggravated damages in respect of both claims. The newspaper appealed. The Court of Appeal, comprising Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers MR, Chadwick and Keene LJJ, allowed the appeal and discharged the judge's order: [2002] EWCA Civ 1373, [2003] QB 633. Miss Campbell has now appealed to your Lordships' House.
I have not read the whole opinion yet (it is massively long) but it gives the complete opinions of 5 Lords of Parliament. I will not copy and paste because it would take days to scroll through my message because it is so long, so I am just going to provide the Parliament House of Lords link to this case.
House of Lords - Campbell (Apellant) v. MGN Limited (Respondents) (parliament.uk)