so i started a reply on the topic of "what's your status?
" and it made me think about my df hearing (sorry i can't remember the exact term for what happened).. so i was fading, living in a different country, working & making rare appearances at my kingdom hall.
i was flat sharing with a sister though.
I told them I had sex.. they had to have me discribe the penetration everytime .. the one older elder got off on it everytime..
I was privately reproved/removed as a pioneer...
publicly reproved..
Disfellowshiped ..
They asked everytime about the penetration... the final one I wanted out .. so I went as a repeat, repeat repeat offender..
2 sisters came to the door and since i dont live in the territory they dont know me and i got to say "i'm not interested" for the first time :).
it felt awesome.
didnt have a chance to engage in conversation as i was quite busy but it was a nice first for me..
I did feel bad for the kid .. I kinda wanted to listen .. but freeked me out cause it reminded me of me..
It's great now .. no guilt when I se them..
2 sisters came to the door and since i dont live in the territory they dont know me and i got to say "i'm not interested" for the first time :).
it felt awesome.
didnt have a chance to engage in conversation as i was quite busy but it was a nice first for me..
oh and I have some good things from the experience(being raised JW)... but they don't out way all the bad .. and you can get good qualities from a less destructive place.. too
2 sisters came to the door and since i dont live in the territory they dont know me and i got to say "i'm not interested" for the first time :).
it felt awesome.
didnt have a chance to engage in conversation as i was quite busy but it was a nice first for me..
at that time ... dealing with a witness brought tremendious guilt trips for me.. I didn't know what to say.. plus the kid didn't want to read it thats for sure..
what woke me up was that I could never bring my self to tell my own daughter about it.. I felt it was wrong to teach doom and gloom to minors...plus if it's not the end, why worry her pretty little head.. I'll look into it when she's older.. best choice I ever made
I was in the 3rd grade in 1974 and went in service every saturday.. it was hell....
It was a wake up call foir me that day.. I wish I had a do over, I would have told the kid what I thought, then looked at his Dad and said,
" maybe you should think twice about exposing your child out in the Door to door work"
i was doing some reading on jonestown recently, which led me to some reading on the branch davidians and the heaven's gate folks.. it seems to me (and this is the part i want to discuss) doomsday or apocolyptic cults all share some common characteristics:.
- secret knowledge of am impending disaster.
- their survival if they follow the messages from a higher source that their leader receives.
yes that all good, but the OP is How do they start??
Some one trying to make sense of it all,, then thinking they got it,, then not knowing they don't!
Hassan's book talk's of people following someone to a mountain top to wait for a UFO .. when it doesn't come, a small percentage won't give it up ..
pride I guess.. lack of humility..
can any one name one that ended well?
in matthew 7:7 jesus says:.
ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
for every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
none.. he doesn't exist...
i was doing some reading on jonestown recently, which led me to some reading on the branch davidians and the heaven's gate folks.. it seems to me (and this is the part i want to discuss) doomsday or apocolyptic cults all share some common characteristics:.
- secret knowledge of am impending disaster.
- their survival if they follow the messages from a higher source that their leader receives.
sorry EdenOne .. the JW's are the McDonalds fanchise of apocolytpic CULTS...
i was doing some reading on jonestown recently, which led me to some reading on the branch davidians and the heaven's gate folks.. it seems to me (and this is the part i want to discuss) doomsday or apocolyptic cults all share some common characteristics:.
- secret knowledge of am impending disaster.
- their survival if they follow the messages from a higher source that their leader receives.
did anyone see this one on Nat Geo
http://www.communityofjesus.net/insideacult.html
I remember watching and seeing the similarities to JW's right away
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/arts/television/07cult.html?_r=0
i was doing some reading on jonestown recently, which led me to some reading on the branch davidians and the heaven's gate folks.. it seems to me (and this is the part i want to discuss) doomsday or apocolyptic cults all share some common characteristics:.
- secret knowledge of am impending disaster.
- their survival if they follow the messages from a higher source that their leader receives.
how do the END... ??
badly ...very badly...
i am technically inactive.
i was just curious if there are many people on the inside.
are there any within bethel itself?
DF'd since 87... awakened in 2012... active apostate..
