"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
universal sovereign; gives TEN COMANDMENTS.. which include thou shall not covet, kill or steal
universal sovereign; then tell same people he gave them to, to covet their neighbors land, (it is flowing with milk and honey for goodness sakes) KILL everyone in it .. and steal IT
It's not like they were written in STONE.. LOL
Oh and Ransom had to be paid because he can't break his own LAWS...
I like this thread..
I love Disintegration too.. Wish came out when I was going through divorce.. it helped me deal with it emotionally, Apart.. the line.. "please stop loving me..I am none of these things" and many more.. "the Edge of the Deep Green Sea " is probably my favorite song ever!!
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
thanks Alec.. and I enjoyed your other commments too..
theCURE- WISH
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
@ lars .. or maybe this
in a nutshell: i think that (and i do not enjoy thinking about this)...i think that the crazies within the religion (who range from just low level people to co elder do and up) have won so many battles at this point (over the more balanced people/ideas)......that the people who tend to think in a more balanced fashion (whether they themselves be low level or higher up) are getting to be the real minority.
i think this dynamic, will be what finally sinks the ship.. as we see with any organization (corporate or otherwise), many times there are reports that make you wonder (how is this thing alive or prospering?
), and upon closer scrutiny, there are strong people in the background holding the walls up (who themselves get little attention).
if the corporatin fails.... new groups will be born from it.. I think
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
how can God say they were perfect?....... they listened to a talking snake....
I agree imperfect people ruling themselves .. outcome is fixed..
he should have made offspring perfect to really settle this.. so it will never be settled, because in the new system when we are perfect again he will be ruling ...
I'm how could anything go wrong with the universal sovereign ruling ..
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
universal sovereignty... humm... so cast man out of garden right after sin.... angel not cast out of their home till right before the end of it all...
and they get to spoil mans effort to rule themselves..
sounds like Jehovah is stacking the deck against us..
I wonder if the defecting angels and the loyal ones have beeen enjoying their time together.. did the loyal ones get stuck with all the $h*tty choirs..
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
and why do all the perfect angel creatures get to live so long after they sinned?
what was their forbiden fruit so to speak?
Isn't it unfair that Adam and Eve where trick by perfect spirit person.. I mean would they have ate with out an outside influence,
didn't God know about all his spirirt sons.. what they were capable of? was there ever a warning about talking snakes?
reasonable?
i think it's fitting for my very first post to be a thread on jw.net turning myself in to any lurking elders out there on a witch-hunt to cleanse the congregation so that god's choosen ones can "remain in god's love.
" so i'm sorry to all you awesome, truthful apostates on this site, but this thread is really intended for any lurking nazis -- i mean, the taliban -- ugh, i mean elders of the world's most "loving" cult religion.. i am an apostate.
here, i'll save you the trouble:.
thanks... it might be Princeville cong
