i was listening to the radio today.
kdkr dallas.
they were playing a q&a with ravi zacharias and he pointed out a passage in acts 17 that i was unfamiliar with, but it rung some bells in my head.. acts 17:24,25 (nwt): "the god that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this one is, lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples,neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all [persons] life and breath and all things.".
Ryan
You are beginning to join the dots... good for you!
We have spent so many years equating Jehovah with the Organization that it can be a groundbreaking revelation when we finally start to seperate the two. The truth and beauty of the scriptures starts to come clearer and clearer.
How are you feeling?
I must admit I went through the whole gammut of emotions when I was at this stage. Excitement, frenzied reading, fear, anxiety, anger, joy, tears..the lot!
take care bro x
mayan calendar, harold camping, william miller and the great disappointment and more .... .
who knew?
- failed doomsday prophecies.
Thanks for that 00DAD, I hope my brother sees it. He's totally buys into the 21st Dec thing and is quite convinced that alien visitations are imminent.
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
Hi Jojojunfan and welcome.
As a sister I haven't had the same pressure you feel to reach out but I can definately empathise with the pressure for hours.
After much prayerful thought and bible reading, several scriptures came to my mind. One of them was "Come to me all you who are toiling and loaded down and I will refresh you. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me for my yoke is kindly and my load is light".
A nice scripture often quoted, but do you feel the truth of those words?
Is this 10hr edict a light load or a burden? Does it make you feel refreshed or guiltridden and worthless?
You know the answer to these questions, so the next step is to ask yourself, is the 10hr edict really from Jesus? Would He have put such a burden on your shoulders, making you feel so guilty and downhearted that you'd contemplate suicide? Surely not!
This edict is from MEN, not Christ. And as a christian, whose words should you be following?
So don't let the burdens and rules of MEN make you feel downhearted and guilty, for they are the words of Pharisees who burdened the people unnecessarily harshly. How did Jesus feel about such men? He condemned them in the strongest terms!
You have a good heart dear bro so please don't underestimate the value of the kind assistance you give your brothers now. Jehovah isn't interested in men who "reach out" He's interested in the hidden qualities, which are far more precious to him than anything else.
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
Hi all and thank you for your responses. I read and share your concerns with this too. Its definately bat crazy but is it dangerous?
Azazel: PS just read the section about Stareed self activation process and its copied from the same religion that Falon Dafa got their exercise energy system.
Thanks for this info I didn't know this, I'll investigate further.
Anyway, here is another quote from a channeler Mike Quinsey released on the 16th Jan.
"Now you should find that you are very much aware and able to maintain a high level of calmness in all situations even when in the midst of low vibrational energies. It is building up to a critical mass that by the end of the year will help power your going through the stargate. By this time, only those who have successfully prepared themselves will go forward and ascend"
What I'm doing at the moment is trying to gather as much info on this group as possible, find out what they believe and if they are using any sort of subversive methods on their followers. I'm no expert in this field but my experience with JW's (JW for 21 years, da'd 4 years ago, shunned) will hopefully help me recognise the same manipulative language.
Thank you again to any of you who can add to my research.
Once I've got enough understanding I can then gather family members to help and approach my brother with some convincing counter arguments.
Until I can be convincing, he won't listen to a word I say.
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
Ive phoned his daughter. Im hoping she'll monitor the situation and get back to me. Meanwhile I'm gonna find a few more quotes from this group and get your opinions on them if thats ok?
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
"Has he ever been suicidal outside this crazy cult?"
Not as far as I know but I do get the sense that he's very unhappy.
To be honest I don't know what to think. Steve Hassan mentioned hypnotic suggestion but I dont know enough about the subject to be sure if this group is using it or not.
My bro has always been a level headed guy, hard working yet with a boyish mischievous character that would show itself regularly. This change in him worries me far more than the whackiness of what he believes.
Its also the earnestness and absolute certainty of this belief that worries me. He accepts that it sound nuts to anyone in "duality" (you and me) but because we don't yet "understand" he is being patient. He says on Monday 23rd Jan the whole earth will be enveloped in a wave of calming cosmic energy and as the year progresses and the aliens reveal themselves, it'd be a good idea to start stockpiling food and water.
I know stress and depression can do strange things to people but I've never seen the likes of this before.
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
http://www.galacticfederationoflight.info/mike-quinsey.html
Here's a quote from one of their latest messages from the Galactic Being called SaLuSa
"Trust in us and God that events are going to proceed as promised, and do not worry as to the timing as it will occur in a way that is exactly correct for the desired outcome. Also be assured that the end times will work out as planned, and that responsibility is ours and everything is totally prepared. There is no need to be concerned about your individual role and what will happen to you, as each of you will experience precisely what you have planned. Some of you have elected to leave the Earth early, and others will see the final year through to the end. Either way it will have been your choice, and all will ultimately leave the old Earth as you presently know it."
This sent up a red flag with me!
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
He's in his 50's. A family man with 4 grown up kids, one grandchild and a demanding shrew of a wife. (I'm not a fan of hers). 3 of his kids still live at home and the wife refuses to take any keep money from them leaving my brother to support them all.
I say this to give you an idea of the stress I think he's under.
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
Hi James
Yes thats what jumps to my mind too. It worries me that there are so many conspiracy theorists and doomsayers out there harping on about the year 2012 that I think my bro has been caught up in something and is being swept along on the false hope pinned to a date.
hello all, venetian here, formally known as boyzone.
i finally sussed how to download goggle chrome and hopefully now i can post again, yippee!.
anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult?
Hello all, Venetian here, formally known as Boyzone. I finally sussed how to download Goggle Chrome and hopefully now I can post again, yippee!
Anyway, has anyone heard of this group or suspect that theyre a cult? I had a special visit from my older brother in his 50's (an x witness) who came without his family and he was totally convinced that there will be a mass invasion of galactic forces on 21st Dec this year. He also says we are surounded by alien craft poised to bring peace to the earth and to enlighten us with new technologies and to ascend us to a higher dimension. (sound familiar?)
Ive googled and found their website which is full of some strange ideas to do with crop circles etc. Ive also emailed Steve Hassan but he was about to go on an intervention and couldnt give me much information except to say there could be some kind of hypnotic suggestion going on.
Now to be honest, I dont care what my brother believes, we can all believe what we want, right? But he's changed. He used to be the jokey, happy-go-lucky one but now there's a serious demeanour about him. His wife and family didn't know that he'd visited us to tell us his beliefs, they didn't even know where he was which is out of character for him.
When explaining his beliefs, he became quite jittery and shook with, what seemed to me, anxiety. He explained that this was due to the energies within the earth that he was now sensitive to and were coursing through him. As he tried to bring up various youtube videos on the subject, he could hardly type.
He stayed the night and in the morning he said he'd had a message from a galactic being who told him to go to our dad. Dad was to ask for a sign and a sign will be given him. Only if dad asked for it though. (sound familiar again?)
Since my brother left, I've been keeping an eye on the Galactic Federation website, and, along with the information in Steve Hassan's books and online, trying to work out if they fit the description of a cult.
Does anyone here know anything about this? I'd appreciate any info you can offer as I'm worried for my brother's wellbeing and sanity, especially as the year progresses and we get closer to 21.12.2102.
