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  New Watchtower president

  by neat blue dog in

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  the main corporation is two words "watch tower" society of pennsylvania.

  don adams took over for milton henschel in 2000 when the governing body cut all corporate ties, and when he died robert ciranko took over for him in 2014.. the next major corporation in line is the one word "watchtower" society of new york.

  the jw's first black corporate president, leon weaver jr., was president of this one up until recently.

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  He was US Branch Maintenance Construction overseer that is why he was president of KSS.
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  Problems that exist with the Australian Redress Scheme for Victims of Child Sexual Abuse.As it stands now.

  by smiddy3 in

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  i was listening to an overnight abc radio broadcast with rod quin ?in the early hours of the morning 14/3/19.

  and with him was a guest of the labour party of newcastle nsw ,sorry her name escapes me.. and some issues were raised that i never knew of, that survivors might have .hopefully i can articulate them here as i understand it.

  and remember it ....we all know the trauma that a child will go through with being abused and some will go off the rails because of that and commit some crimes of their own maybe in their teen years .. anybody who has committed a crime and spent time in jail can not take part in the redress scheme.

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  I do actually wonder how many Watchtower would be on the hook for under the Scheme. I was reading the rules on the schemes' public website. It seems to indicate that it had to be a non-family member and during an official institutional activity, on institution property or from an institutional leader. Just going through the numbers in Case 29 I really don't think it would be many.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  I am not trying to control you poopie. You just don't understand what the constitution means at all.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  I would also include Stephane we have agreed that the right that you agree with is that of the person who is still a member of JWs. You have never been DF'ed or DA'ed, so legally speaking you still fall under there authority. So I am going to look forward to reading your lawsuit that your solicitor draws up.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  I have. I really don't think that you have. In each of them, the writers use the term congress or government. Is Watchtower either Congress or a government as recognized by the US.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  Poopie: Please I am begging you to understand this. What you have constantly been talking about are amendments that prevent the government from infringing on a person's rights. This does not apply to private organizations.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  Stephane: I don't like I don't believe in it. But for the government to make in an actionable offense would do way more harm than good. Even the threat of removing tax-exempt status as Desirous. We saw what happened with Tea Party nonprofits and the IRS a few years ago. When you start to have government dictate what is acceptable action and thought without a compelling governmental interest it is a slippery slope.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  In all honesty, the foundation of the court cases is based on an 1871 supreme court case. I really don't see any court bucking precedent for 148 years of case law.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  Ok, so that is your definition of compelling governmental action. that is perfectly logical. But there is a wealth of case law that disagrees with you. And I honestly from the bottom of my heart if you somehow got a state legislature to make a law defining it, it would be struck down by the courts even before the ink is dry on the governor's signature. Just because the case law does not define it the way that you expect it to, how mandatory precedent rules apply would require courts to strike it down.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  No a priest cannot apply corporal punishment because again it is a neutral law. The goverment has a compeling interest in their citizens not being physically assaulted.

  Please describe the compelling governmental interest that you want to apply with JW shunning.