SL: ok so you have no problem with the secrecy of the catholic confessional in child abuse. But now let me throw this wrench into it. There is a new catholic policy that if a priest confesses to another priest in the confession, that it must be reported to the archdiocese. The catholic church still says that in that case the confessional is still sacrosanct and that they will not report to the police. So would that fall under sub section b or c of the montana law.
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56Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
So just as everyone here complains that JWs wont listen to reason because it comes from "apostates" even though it is factual information. The same applies to "apologists" even though it is factual information and reasoned arguments.
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News report - Montana Supreme Court Hearing: Silent No More: The Justices (Silent Part 4)
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.wlwt.com/article/silent-no-more-part-4-the-justices/29040023?fbclid=iwar1beverlfko8g4lz5hbsize6dl1b87ukfabevyv07iizgziawzq1gfvevu .
silent no more: the justices.
jehovah’s witnesses argue montana supreme court justices should overturn $35 million verdict—largest in u.s.. mark albert .
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JC323
The mother Ivy had knowledge that her step father abused her sister and brother but she still delivered alexis to him and provided him the opportune opportunity to abuse her. The court record confirms as soon as Ivy stopped using her mother as a babysitter the abuse stopped. Ivy makes the claim that she listened to the elders actions thinking he was cured but that would be the only thing she listened to elders about. She used her mother as a babysitter because she didnt want to spend money for a safer alternative. How is this not exclusively her fault.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
It really isnt a loophole. A loophole is when the goverment in its legislature writing doesnt explicitly say something and lawyers discover it and then use it. Here the legislature specifically and purposefully included these exceptions.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
Well there is a tenet of the faith for JC. That is what is the argument before the Montana supreme court. It is who is allowed to define confidential communication.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
Actually if you read the wisconsin law it does say confidential communication or confession... as prescribed the the fatiths tenets. That is what the montana appeal is about. Can the state say these types of communications we allow to be kept confidential and others not, or do we allow the faith to decide that.
You can look at the state of Delaware. Their law states only confession, but the Delaware case that jwsurvey highlights the settlement stipulation does include that adult JC do fall under that exception.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
You do know that seinfeld was a TV show. In Massachusetts there is a good samaritan law but it is a law to prevents people from sueing other people if they attempt to render aide but either causes damage or the person rending the side is unsuccessful in assiting. It is there to encourage aide.in fact if you watch that episode the lawyer mockingly says who says you have to help someone. Justice Kennedy asked the same thing in essence during thr ACA SCOTUS case.
The general law theory is a duty to rescue. There a few states with narrow duty to rescue laws, but they are rare and very narrow.
There was a famous case a few years ago in florida where a group of teenagers recorded the drowning of a disabled man and posted it. It made that groupa huge group of assholes but nothing was done illegally, except for maybe breaking the law of not notifying the police of a dead body.
And data dog. I dont care if you look up my profile and actually thought u would be too much of a dumbass because of the way you cant think for yourself or reason on complex matters.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
Actually the mother/sister did know of the abuse. Her own testimoney was that she took her sister to report it.
And great in france but not anywhere in the US.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
Yes would definitely make some a bastard and everything else, but it isnt illegal and cannot be held civilly liable for the inaction. So you also cant have it both ways where elders are clergy for making them mandatory reporters but no communication elders is a clergy privilege.
That is what the plantiff wants to be said.
I never see really cries on here everyday to write to state legislatures to remove clergy privilege period. Is it ok as long as the catholic model is followed.
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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JC323
See people here think that a person can be held liable for not protecting or reporting a crime committed against a third party. If I am walking down the street and see someone being rapped and in fact have the ability to stop it but I dont guess what, I have not committed a crime and cannot be held liable to that victim. The only time I would be is if I was legally required too.
There is no where in Montana law that says a normal person must report child abuse.
Look at this montana case. Why didnt alexis sue her mother who knew her stepfather abused her sister and still delivered her to him repeatedly. Or even in the supreme court case it was brought up that the sherrieffs department didnt investigate because under montana law they weren't required to nor required to report to child services at the state level.