The 144,000 were taken in the 1st century from the 12 tribes of Israel. The second coming and the resurrection took place in that 1st century generation just like jesus said it would be and his promise to come back for his elect he said some of who would still be alive when he returned as he promised. Are there any 1st century Apostles still alive today.Surely your answer must be no.So its ALL done finished. The end is not about the end of the world but about the end of jerusalem, the law, the temple, the old covenants. All things have been made new.Meaning all believers since that 1st century end live by faith. The is no third coming in our time because jesus told his Apostles he would come back for them before all of them had died.. He did
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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Help! Jehuba Is Casting Doubts In My Mind!
by sinboi inremember when we were "in"?
we were told that if we have doubts regarding the bible and regarding the wt, it is satan that is casting doubts in our mind?.
i have been out for 4 months now.
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maccauk
As regards the end the end was in the 1st century. You have nothing to worry about there isno destruction of the world it was about the destruction of the Old Covenant/Jerusalem/ the law . The New Heaven and earth is the new covenant in which we live by faith alone.You have been set free. Where there is no law there is no sin, no more death it is done finished. See my youtube christians rising to help you see how all things have been fulfilled in the 1st century its finished
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I have enjoyed the shunning in the past. But why not now?
by sinboi ini am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.
my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.
yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.
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Why send any letter.You are not endebted to anyone.You are a free man to seek God. I just let myself fade away without any fuss or drama. I found Jesus Christ and also discovered ALL things have been fulfilled it is done finished. You are free already https://youtu.be/Iw6J5FAm3vo
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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maccauk
The Great Tribulation was in the 1st century and was about the destruction of the Old Covenant, the temple, jerusalem, in 70 ad. All things have been made new ie the new covenent in which man is reconcilled back to God and lives with faith, free from death and condemnation forever, it is done finished It came just like Jesus said it would and would NEVER be repeated in his own words.The generation did not pass away just like he told them. There is no end of the world . https://youtu.be/Iw6J5FAm3vo
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Why I think the Trinity doctrine is an irrelevant talking point with JWs, and what I believe could be a better approach.
by Island Man inthere are no authentic/uncontested bible verses that prove a trinity.
the trinity doctrine is arrived at by inferences - not unlike the way that jws arrive at the doctrine that jesus is michael the archangel.
the jw proof texts against the trinity are at least as strong, if not stronger than, trinity proof texts.
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maccauk
forget trying to prove the trinity. Its easier to describe the Godhead. There is one God and Jesus is the manifestation of his word, Christ is God and God took on flesh became a man to show himself to the world. Christ fully man fully God as it is written
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Did Jesus pre exist? Yes or no?
by UnshackleTheChains inwhen i first became a witness, i always found the teaching about jesus being the arch angel michael hard to swallow.
i did however believe that jesus pre existed as a master worker alongside god (the first of his creation).. but now everything is brought into question having watched anthony buzzard explain why jesus could not have pre existed as it is impossible to pre exist yourself.
also the fact that it all sounds contradictory to suggest, he was already alive millions of years before he was transferred to mary's womb to be born as a human - the son of man?.
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maccauk
Jesus did pre exist because he created ALL things as it says in J
john 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. -
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The fraud that is the 70 year desolation
by Crazyguy inas we know being former jws that we were taught that jerusalem was destroyed then 70 years it would be desolate.
well this isn't about jerusalem and the 607/ 587 argument.
this is about the whole subject of the 70 years desolation being a huge bible fraud.
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maccauk
All prophecy was about the 1st century , the destruction of Jerusalem in 70ad. Thats when ALL things were fulfille d in that generation just like Jesus said it would https://youtu.be/Iw6J5FAm3vo
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Hey "faithful slave," when did Jesus become king?
by The Fall Guy inw78 3/1 p. 18 par.
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this was 40 days after his resurrection from the dead, [33 c.e.
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he has been King since the 1st century. All things were fulfilled it is done finished https://youtu.be/Iw6J5FAm3vo
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1 John 5:13-20 Jesus is the true God?
by NikL inone of the main things i am trying to wrap my head around after waking up to the nonsense of jw.org is the deity of christ.. jws go out of their way to ignore him, it seems to me.
they make him out to be an angel or something.
yet, if one simply reads the scriptures, you get an entirely different picture.. doing some bible reading this morning i accidentally (long story) read the latter part of 1 john 5 and it's good stuff.. after reading it in the niv i read it in nwt and it is still pretty amazing even in that abomination of a translation.. it says.... 13 i write you these things so that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the son of god.
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For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
Yes Jesus is God. He is the visible manifestation of God in the flesh in a mans body
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Watchtower Study Today from August 2017 issue " Wait Patiently"
by BluesBrother intheme scripture , james 5 v 8 abbreviated to " you too, exercise patience".
(i guess we know what to expect now) .
" how long?
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maccauk
you dont need to be patient if your waiting for the end all things have been fulfilled already in the 1st century it done finished forever https://youtu.be/Iw6J5FAm3vo