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If you ever try to debate him, it's like trying to nail jello to a wall. He's in full JW mode - switching topics, pouncing on the different meaning of individual words and obsessing about the slightest error anyone makes. But completely missing any coherent logical argument.
Yep, his favorite word is Ad-hominin and strawman, when he is the one that does all this.
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Thank you, Kim, That definitely makes sense.
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Then there's situation where he attempted to embezzle money of people, did his ego actually make him believe that people would just pay up?
I know this cult can really screw with our minds but his is on another level.
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So I have a question, this is directed to Kim Silvio as you've had one on one contact with him.
Is it his ego that makes him utterly stupid, or is actually stupid?
The reason I ask is his new shenanigans with opening up he free tier so he (in his mind) can make people believe he's grown his numbers, does his ego believe that people will not sus that these people are free subscribers who don't receive anything at all?
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You don't get anything for the free tier by the way 😉
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Just think. After this episode and his constant threats of litigation through the years, if he ever tries this again, he will never be taken seriously again.
The manchild who cried wolf too many times.
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Minimizing the literal battlefield rape and kidnappings of civilian women & children by calling it self-defense?
Palestine and Israel is a far more complicated issue than anyone would ever know. No one should jump to conclusions when the mainstream media and all world leaders jump to the defense of Israel. It is almost cult-like.
Let's leave emotional reactions to the people who use these reactions to further their cause. As with everything one has to wait and see what the reaction is. Like stopping water electricity and food, to an already oppressed nation, which is a war crime. Don't keep falling for the propaganda, I thought the last three years would have taught people that, especially those who have been in a cult and should know cult tactics when they see them.
Let's get back onto the subject, and leave the propagandists to stir up emotions to warrant more wars and death and destruction.
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He had found out the hard way that he had revealed too much.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely" This is why he thought he could get away with spilling the beans to Kim and Producer Bob. He has gotten away with so much in the last ten or so years, from doxing people to printing a copyrighted book to everything else in between, he thought nothing could touch him. At first, when Kim revealed what Lloyd disclosed the flying monkeys did attack, and (to use a well-used trope) it was all Kim's fault. Then Lloyd decided to go on record admitting to everything Kim had said. It took a while for reality to set in with his followers, but it set in eventually.
His whole grift has been based on a lie from day one. We need to keep in mind that he had a branch representative at his judicial, and (according to him) he tried to blackmail the representative, why did he do this, what did they have on him?
He then dragged his wife with him. My belief is, that she never wanted to leave, but Lloyd being Lloyd forced Dijana to write the letter, I think there is a bit in his book where he mentions that he had to force her to write the letter because she didn't feel she wanted to, I could be wrong here though. I think she will probably go back as her parents are still JW's.
Recently I changed my mind about him being a watchtower plant. I now think he never wanted to leave, he loved being a JW, especially the fake power of being an elder, he was forced out. So what did he do when he was forced out, he made a video about it. "I am just about to go to my judicial committee, I am not going to record it because of reasons" This would have been a perfect opportunity to record his judicial. He has since deleted this video I think. Probably because people started to question why he decided not to record his judicial, and of course why a branch representative was there.
From day one, he has lied, he got people to believe his version of the events. Then the VAA started to ask questions. At that time, he had enough people on his side to go on the attack at his request. His followers were unhinged, to say the least, like some sort of bloodthirsty cult, they were vicious and Lloyd would have loved every minute of the vitriol as he then knew he could get away with anything and just call on his flying monkeys to attack.
This is why he revealed his trip to Kim and Pruducer Bob, he thought he was so powerful that even something as bad as this would be like Teflon to his reputation as the best of the best JW "activist" that has ever roamed the earth. He still has people trying to defend him, but they are very cult-like in the way they speak. In Mike and Kim's last video, I saw some of the comments, and they did freak me out a little because the cult speak was scary to see.
His own downfall is his own doing. He could not even be a successful JW as his ego got in the way. He is hiding a lot of things and he is trying desperately to keep a lid on this. He is his own worst enemy and he is going to find out that keeping things hidden is only going to be much worse when found out. His attempt at litigation was an attempt to keep things hidden, but fortunately, this time around the threat of litigation did not work so now he is shrinking away, probably knowing that things will eventually be revealed, there is still a lot to come out about Lloyd and he knows it is only a matter of time now that the litigation has not had the effect he was hoping it would have had.
His downfall is all his doing, his failed attempt at litigation will only make people more determined to find out more about his grift, and why he has used the constant threat of litigation (that has always failed) to try and silence people.
We all know you watch this thread intently Lloyd, know this. This is all your doing, you could have been honest from the outset, but you have chosen to lie right from the beginning. Nothing will stop anyone now as your empty threats have turned out to be nothing.
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To be fair, the flying monkeys are easier to manage these days as you'll only ever see one are two. The bad old days when one got exhausted because they would literally come out of the woodwork are over with.
He knows that that is why he is cowering away, he does not have the influence he used to have.
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