I'll put it in simple terms. He got fired from the twuff for his indiscretions. As he was an elder son, he must have been a real pain in the watchtower's ass if they got rid of him.
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Thisismein1972
for the stabilising influence
H wasn't stable in the truth either! Do you think sexting girls whilst married in the twuff is a stabilizing influence?
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I wonder if he is honest was he more happy physically in? Would he have had a happier life staying JWlite and mentally out.
His book reveals what he was like when he was, he escaped to Croatia only to be in front of a branch representative and blackmail them (according to his words) of course he wanted to stay in, he could hide all his indiscretions if he was allowed to stay an elder. Unfortunately, his ego got in the way, and even the watchtower had enough of him. Let's remember he did not record his judicial, having a branch representative there would have been an ideal opportunity to record the judicial.
Unless of course, there were things Lloyd was hiding and he did not want them revealed. And as for being a happy family within the twuff. Even an elder mentioned how Lloyd used his wife as a doormat. Even Marc will tell you an example of how Lloyd forgot his family duties to barge into the limelight.
Everything he has revealed himself, so if he already knows all this, then he is self-aware enough to realize that he needs to change. He has had over 10 years to do this, but not once has he done any self-reflection at all.
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Yes Lloyd unwittingly promotes staying JWlite for the protection you get staying physically in even if mentally out.
It is not unwitting at all, he knows exactly what he is doing. Built a cult following to fleece his followers and did what pretty much every cult evangelist does, spending the money on prostitutes and other things.
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That's what surprises me about all these people that still defend "his good work". Most of this good work was done by other people, we have one on this thread that will attest to that. Most of the research has been done by others, and most of the hard work has been done by other people. He just strongarmed those people to put it on his platform and then he got all the credit. He never even gave these people credit, instead, when they spoke out against him he smeared them.
Crisis of Conscience Not his work, but he did decide to berate and smear the copyright owner.
Marc and Cora were the ones who were about to do a media interview,regarding CSA. Lloyd sabotaged that interview.
He has done nothing at all as it has all been done for him. So please do not justify his "good work" as he has not done any.
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There's only one channel I would say no to and it's more on US political grounds than anything else.
I have news for you Lloyd has used identity politics and woke agenda politics to try and shoot other people down. He called people racist (just a racist trope I think he said) to justify his use of sex workers in Thailand. He has called other men misogynists when he is the biggest misogynist you'll ever meet. He even blamed Brexit for something something the UK. Just because someone has a different political stance (usually from the brainwashing of the MSM) does not mean it is true. I thought one would understand what effects propaganda has on one's emotions.
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You all have said plenty already. All I will say is, if he's going to continue to cover documents and topics about CSA, wouldn't you rather there be someone there to bring a sensitivity to the topic? To bring a lived experience to the topic?
So he sabotages two other people who could have had a media interview to further the CSA case.
He then uses prostitutes in a country that is well known for child trafficking and prostitution.
YES YES. He is the right person. I got it all wrong. Long live our master and savior.
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I get the impression that she has done as much as she feels safe doing.
This rings true. He is very controlling, we've seen that with those who finally wake up to his manipulation. He is quite a dangerous person and he does seem to have kept Dijanna's family to ransom to a certain extent. by the sounds of his previous rants.
Jana is just another victim of his manipulation. Narcissists and sociopaths are very good at seeking out empathetic people. But that does not mean those empathetic people should blame themselves for being sucked in. No one wants to see another person to be somewhat of a questionable character.
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I understand your feelings on this LMSA, I definitely feel like my experience effects how I feel xx
I understand how you feel as if you were a victim of his manipulation. There are still a lot of people who cannot understand just how much a narcissist can really get under the skin of another person and have this persona of being the nicest person on earth who is just a victim of the world around them.
You're not the only person who has a certain amount of empathy here. 😊