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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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ElderBerry said:

Religion comes from a need for hope

I agree.

ElderBerry said:

On Reddit many PIMOs are turning to agnostic so they can still have hope.

Could you elaborate... or as JWs used to say, expound on that?Also, they need a sticky here so that people can understand all the PI acronyms. I know some of them, but I'm going to go Google the rest of them.

ElderBerry said:

I think most PIMIs think the GB maybe wrong on some things otherwise there would never be new lite ever again.

But I would say that they are pretty steadfast and don't really care about that.

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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Kosonen said:

I would like to shortly tell my story. When I was about 30 years 19 years ago I saw one WT teaching that was not according to the Bible. Then I thought what else might be wrong? So I started to read the Bible cover to cover multiple times prayerfully to understand which WT doctrines are true and which are false. In that way during several years I found out many things WT teaches correctly but also many things they teach falsely.

So, which ones are those?

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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Vanderhoven7 said:

The truth is
Every unique doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses is extra-biblical, .ie., not found in the Bible.
Evey teaching that is unique and original to the religion is derived by eisegesis rather than exegesis I.e., speculation additional to scripture.

But what about the whole Daniel statue thing? Because both Jews and church Christians and skeptics say that the feet of iron and clay is Rome. However, related verses speak about a stone carved from a mountain that smashes that statue and grows and covers all of earth. Therefore, how could Rome be the feet of the statue since the stone carved from the mountain hasn't taken over the world after Rome was destroyed?

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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IWant2Know

KalebOutWest said:

There are countless people on this forum. You will have to be more specific, such as use their actual name.
And if you know their name, you can then ask them directly by sending them a message.
But individual people here who don't know them or about them can't answer questions about others.
Forums are just like real life. We don't have ESP here either and thus cannot read one another's minds (or yours). It's called "reality," and there are boundries to it.
(It's like me asking you: "What about that one woman who lives in your town in that one house who likes pepper on her potatoes? You know, the one who wears material made of molecules? What is her father's name?" How are you supposed to know? You can't. I would not ask you to answer a question without enough specifics in it.)

Well, she was a fairly well-known poster and lots of people at this forum used to refer to her if you wanted a deep Biblical question answered. However, I have known about this forum for a long time, and I haven't seen her post for a while. Therefore, she may have left the forum, or something may have happened to her.

Also, she had a picture of a young girl in her avatar probably in her early twenties, although by now she would be much older looking if she used a current picture.

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Manners and Respectfulness

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i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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RB said:

Despite of all being hijacked by a nasty high control group, we still maintain many qualities that make us human.
Welcome to the group.
RB

Thank you, RB.

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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titch said:

Well, I, as an "ex", or "fader" certainly DO appreciate manners and respectfulness. Who doesn't? And, I can't understand why your question would be offensive to anyone on this forum. Best Regards-----Titch.

Well, the forum had paused in posting this thread unlike my other threads, therefore, I thought I had said the wrong thing at this forum. Also, there are some people who are very, um, well, let's just say... "energized" at this forum.

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Manners and Respectfulness

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i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

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Sorry about the duplicate thread, but it wouldn't go through at first.

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Isaiah 40:29-31 and Being Gay

by IWant2Know in

i'm new here and i have perhaps an unusual question.

it's just something that i would like to know from ex's or formers rather than from other jehovah's witnesses.

but i would like to know what your experience and your struggle was for former jws who were gay when they were jws.

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Reasonfirst said:

That brought even greater emotional conflict, and he planned suicide. He wanted to find a good-looking young guy, to have a holiday with, and after that to drive a car off a cliff.
Almost predictably, he did meet a young guy, but the young guy had some problems, and in helping him found a second life partner with whom to share his life.
They are still together.

Well, it sounds like Isaiah 40:29-31 didn't help him since I'm pretty such most JWs have tried to apply those verses to themselves. Although JWs would say that he didn't try hard enough or didn't have enough faith or didn't have enough love for God... or that he never was a real JW in the first place.

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Isaiah 40:29-31 and Being Gay

by IWant2Know in

i'm new here and i have perhaps an unusual question.

it's just something that i would like to know from ex's or formers rather than from other jehovah's witnesses.

but i would like to know what your experience and your struggle was for former jws who were gay when they were jws.

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Reasonfirst said:

As my friend explains his life, he (like most of us) does not remember having sexual feelings before puberty. But after puberty his sexual feelings were quite strong, but undirected (that is to a specific sex).

Well, I had never heard of that before. Also, I'm kind of wondering how his sexual feelings were manifested if they weren't directed towards any specific gender.

Reasonfirst said:

He, like a lot of other kids in that time, had no real sexual experience with anyone else. But he did have erotic feelings toward other boys, and some fumblings in the dark in newsreel theatres (no longer existing).

Oh... Well, that makes more sense.

Reasonfirst said:

Around 17-18, coming to make a real decision about his future, he came into contact with the jws. and was 'organised' into studying with a good-looking young brother (who's still a witness).

Well, that sounds very familiar. And I know that JWs believe that they have been commission to preach the good news about the Kingdom to the world, but sometimes I wonder why God (that is, if he's real) doesn't know that some people would have been better off not knowing about the JW message and just allowed to live their lives peacefully.

Also, you mentioned a good-looking brother. So, was there any conflict of feelings with your friend and this brother?

Reasonfirst said:

My friend also became a serious jw, and began to suppress his desires. Eventually, he was convinced that B.O.Y. had 'cured' him, and he could get married without internal conflicts. So, he met an attractive (and, zealous) young sister (I interpret his descriptions to mean that she was a bit 'boyish' and rather flat-chested), got married, and pioneered with her for many years.

So, are you perhaps implying that he may have been attracted to her because she looked boyish? Also, you friend sounds like he was bisexual, because 100% homosexuals don't have attraction towards the opposite sex. Also, what is B.O.Y.?

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Isaiah 40:29-31 and Being Gay

by IWant2Know in

i'm new here and i have perhaps an unusual question.

it's just something that i would like to know from ex's or formers rather than from other jehovah's witnesses.

but i would like to know what your experience and your struggle was for former jws who were gay when they were jws.

IWant2Know

Kosonen said:

Hi, I would answer your question by saying that everyone has to struggle with sinful inclinations. Hetrosexual people might have a hard struggle with constant thoughts about fornication or adultery.
But other people who are not especially interested with sex, might have strong feelings of greed, or excessive desire to steal or to take drugs or drink too much alcohol or some find it irresistible to avoid bullying others.
I think everyone who is not fully engaged spiritually struggles with a variety of serious sinful feelings and thoughts.

So, Kosonen, how did you become a non-Jehovah's Witness Christian? Because I've tried it but could never go with it.