Posts by pale.emperor

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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time

by Cold Steel in

i've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.

i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?

let's say you're a baptist.

pale.emperor

Doesn't sound like a place I'd be comfortable being.

No shit. Try being raised as one pal it's even worse.

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My Brother Called Me Yesterday...

by pale.emperor in

my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.

after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.

this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.

My brother isn't a Witness but he was raised one like we all were. After 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study. This being the case, as a non baptized witness he CAN still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family. He used to call me everyday but since i was disfellowshipped he only calls about once every month. Here is part of the conversation took place which i thought was interesting:

Me: Im glad you called, i haven't heard from you in ages.

Him: Yeah, to be honest mum is telling me to be careful talking to you. The elders have spoke to me saying keeping in contact with you will hinder my progress.

Me: You still smoke?

Him: Yeah.

Me: Isnt that against their religion too?

Him: Yeah haha

Me: Ok. Well. As i've said before, i dont talk about religion. So you've no reason to fear speaking to me.

Him: I know. It's weird you know, because they say you'll try and drag me away from the truth but each time we speak you've never mentioned this religion to me.

Me: I know. And i wont.

Him: To be honest, im not as enthusiastic about the religion as i was when i started studying. I've been speaking to <uber dub brother in law> and he says we should just wait on Jehovah because we're so close to the end now. I wish i went to the convention now. They said there were these videos about the time of the end.

Me: Oh yeah i've seen them.

Him: Really? Where?

Me: They're on YouTube.

Him: Really? I'll look for them later. What do you type in to search?

Me: It's called The Bunker Video

Him: Oh great i'll check it out later.

LATER ON HE CALLS AGAIN

Him: I seen the video on YouTube

Me: What did you think?

Him: It was good, they must know we're close to the end now.

Me: ...

Him: My study co-ordinator and <uber dub brother in law> and another elder said i shouldn't have watched it though.

Me: Why?

Him: They said apostates could change it. Like cut parts out or re-edit it.

Me: It might be on JW.org have a look there

Him: I looked, they didn't have it.

Me: Oh. Well you've seen it now. You're not a witness so you've done nothing wrong.

Him: I know... it's just... they kinda made me feel bad about it.

Me: They made you feel bad?

Him: Yeah, i dunno. It's silly. I know i can do what i want but maybe i shouldn't have watched it.

Me: But they're ok with you smoking and still mixing with your worldly friends?

Him: Yeah... well, no. They're not ok with it. But speaking to you and watching JW videos YouTube gets me into trouble.

Me: Well it's up to you. Im not gonna make you talk to me but im glad when you do.

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Circuit ASSembly low-lites

by FedUpJW in

so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.

apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.

thanking the g.b.

pale.emperor

The C.O. made the statement, "We must listen to the GB and watch Jay Double You dot Org to get the word of Jehovah because that is how he speaks to us, and doing those two things will mean our life."

Hmm... so Jehovah God - the all knowing, all wise - communicates to use via internet live stream? This wouldn't be the same invention that was slammed in the 1990's as being a haven for apostates and pornography would it?

Yes, we must listen to the GB. I mean, it's not as if they have a reputation of consistently getting it wrong every time.

Vaccinations

Organ Transplants

The Internet

"This Generation"

USSR being "King of the North"

Please pass the kool-aid, i think im done.

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The shunning has started and... I like it!

by oppostate in

so not having turned in a time-slip in a loooooooong time and making fewer and fewer meetings, and from time to time attending a local church service... the majority of local dubs are overtly shunning me.

there are those who i talk to and who visit our home from time to time, but this last meeting i went to hardly anyone made eye contact, when i greeted folks passing by me, they ignored me.

it actually felt good.. i was surprised at my reaction.

pale.emperor

Who thought a statue of Vishnu or Buddha could actually be useful ...

Coincidentally, Siva is known as "the removal of obstacles" so maybe getting a statue of him would be quite apt. Those elders certainly are obstacles in my book.

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The shunning has started and... I like it!

by oppostate in

so not having turned in a time-slip in a loooooooong time and making fewer and fewer meetings, and from time to time attending a local church service... the majority of local dubs are overtly shunning me.

there are those who i talk to and who visit our home from time to time, but this last meeting i went to hardly anyone made eye contact, when i greeted folks passing by me, they ignored me.

it actually felt good.. i was surprised at my reaction.

pale.emperor

It is nice not having to answer to those pesky elders. No longer looking over your shoulder when you want to buy a packet of gum with a cartoon devil on the packet.

Hey, i even bought "an idol" for my home. It's a great dub deterrent if they ever enter your home.

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Stuck

by Cindy in

i feel so stuck.

i am married to a wonderful man.

i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

pale.emperor

Hi Cindy

I would suggest a slow fade thereby keeping your old contacts and family. You could always turn up to conventions and memorials only like many successful fades do. Like FREDDO (above) says, dont mention apostate sites or anti-JW sites. There's great resources to old WT mags there you can quote from.

As time goes by your husband may wake up to it too but maybe not. You sound sincere and genuine and i wish you a happy future whatever happens.

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My Favouite Inappropriate Watchtower Pictures

by pale.emperor in

i'd love to see you're favorite wt illustrations/photo's that they think are fine to print - but are actually kind of creepy/wierd.. .

here's my three fave from my book of bible stories (yes, a book for children!)..

man gets his head nailed into the floor with a tent pin by a good jehovah worshipper:.

pale.emperor

Happy smiling faces as the world burns:

Dead bodies strewn around, raining fire and sulfur, people in terror and man in the bottom right corner dead and staring right at you!:

Someone you know daring to think for themselves and make their own choices? Make sure you snitch on your "friend" even though their personal life is non of your business:

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To all former Elders – what are your thoughts

by Tallon in

if you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?

how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?

were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?

pale.emperor

I was never an elder, but an ex-elder I've got back in touch with since leaving told me he sat on a JC where they rushed through the whole thing and DF a person because they wanted to be home in time to watch the World Cup final.

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The 1914 doctrine: How long it will last?

by opusdei1972 in

one hundred years have passed and the society still supports this lie, which of course, is the basis of their other lies, like that of the unfaithful and not discreet slave appointed in 1919. however, i wonder, what will happen after 50 years, when the overlapped generation will pass?.

and if you want, what will happen with this religion in 2100?, could it survive with the same lie??

?.

pale.emperor

My mother, brothers and sisters have all swallowed the overlapping generation crap. Unfortunately, by the time they die it'll be about 2050. By which time their kids will have no idea there even was a 1914 teaching what with them moving to digital books that they can "update" all the time. It'll be a new religion by then. As it is now since 1950. When, on the very rare occasion my family let me speak to them, and I tell my family of the stuff this society used to teach they don't believe it. I'm "mentally diseased" what do I know?

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My Favouite Inappropriate Watchtower Pictures

by pale.emperor in

i'd love to see you're favorite wt illustrations/photo's that they think are fine to print - but are actually kind of creepy/wierd.. .

here's my three fave from my book of bible stories (yes, a book for children!)..

man gets his head nailed into the floor with a tent pin by a good jehovah worshipper:.

pale.emperor

There'll be plenty more, but I really don't want to go trawling through their endless propaganda looking for more. Keep posting though guys, this is hilarious yet seriously messed up stuff. The Paradise Lost book had lines in it such as "people will be struck will a terrible disease, their eyes will rot in their sockets, worms will eat their tongues and their flesh will fall off their bones" - great stuff to tell your kids. It's still in the library in my old KM.