Hang on, hang on... so that brother in the convention video who refused to play the Soviet national anthem on his violin COULD have all along? And he went to prison for not doing it?
Unbelievable.
pale.emperor
JoinedPosts by pale.emperor
-
43
Oops, I did it again! Flag placed in the KH: Chile 2016
by ILoveTTATT2 inmy friends,.
what has become now a yearly tradition for me: getting the videos/photos of the flag in chile for their national holidays.. this is the 2016 version, i believe the clearest example yet:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b94j3lmqx_w&feature=youtu.be.
-
-
pale.emperor
-
21
How the org will spin the Midweek meeting about Child Abuse in Australia
by tor1500 inluke 21:11 says:there will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences;+ and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs.
but verse 12 says:but before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you,+ handing you over to the synagogues and prisons.
you will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name.
-
-
pale.emperor
I knew there were accusations against witnesses for covering up child abuse but knew nothing about it. Dismissed it all as apostate lies. I remember my father in law coming back from an elders meeting in a bad mood and randomly said to us all "whenever there's an accusation of child abuse it's always the same - we call the police". Of corse now i know that's not true.
Im positive that 99% of rank and file witnesses know absolutely nothing about the child abuse accusations or why those accusations were made. It's sad really. And dangerous. Only last month my ex wife said to me "people need to be disfellowshipped - otherwise we'd be like the Catholic church where they have pedophile priests and just move them on". I calmly tried to tell her that the same thing goes on with the JW's and she kind of gave me a blank stare. Then i felt bad, like i've just ruined her perfect picture of her religion.
-
36
Easier to be a JW now?
by Xanthippe inreading konceptual's account of talking to cart 'witnesses' and it reminded me that when we left in '89 we thought the religion would do one of two things.
get more hardline, consequently lose members and eventually come to an end in some way.
or ease up on the members, fewer rules, less fs time, less meetings, just to keep them in.. all the recent apostate stuff, treatment of dfed kids and the hardline attitude to people who leave or try to fade has confused me, made me think they are harder on the r+f., but i don't think this is true.
-
-
pale.emperor
I remember back in 2005 or 2006 there was a website that you could print out the scriptures for the meetings. They (whoever they are) had a fit and told us not to use it because we needed to look stuff up in the Bible. Do they even still use Bibles or is it all on the tablet now?
I remember that. I also remember when tablets first became widely used there was an announcement that it's ok to use them but not on the platform. That law has gone too. One elder in my old congregation was even giving those in the pioneer school printouts of all the scriptures and references from JW books to save them time.
-
33
Two Brothers Living Together - Never Dated Girls...
by pale.emperor inin my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s.
they've never dated girls.
they're "best friends".
-
-
pale.emperor
"What were the two guys' names? Patrick Fitzwilliam and William Fitzpatrick?"
Den Dover and Phil McKavity
-
33
Two Brothers Living Together - Never Dated Girls...
by pale.emperor inin my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s.
they've never dated girls.
they're "best friends".
-
-
pale.emperor
They're very nice brothers. Whenever they have get-togethers or BBQs etc everyone turns up.
However, no ones ever seen their bedrooms. In fact, im not even sure if there's two bedrooms.
One works with my brother in law and before i was DF he told me that this brother confided in him that he's sat on more than a few JC's in his time. Which is surprising because he's a "squeeky clean" by the book, straight out of a Watchtower article brother. Very polite and friendly.
There are 10's if not hundreds of thousands of closeted gays in JW-land. It's one of WT's best-kept secrets.
I remember a visiting speaker we had a few years ago. He could only have been about 21yo and min servant but he was assigned to give a talk in our hall. He turned up with his mum and dad. He was, by far, the most camp and effeminate man i've ever seen in JW land. Fake tan, eyebrows plucked to perfection. After the meeting i spoke to him and he gave me a limp handshake. :-D I have no idea what his talk was about, i was distracted by his performance.
-
33
Two Brothers Living Together - Never Dated Girls...
by pale.emperor inin my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s.
they've never dated girls.
they're "best friends".
-
-
pale.emperor
In my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s. They've never dated girls. They're "best friends". They go on holidays together, they live together, they sit together in the hall, they sit together in the assemblies. One went to live in Spain for a while and returned after a few weeks because they missed each other.
There are at least 3 very attractive and sought-after sisters that are head over heels besotted with one of them. Despite their obvious flirtations and fawning he's never persued any of them. When kind old biddies in the hall tell them they're such lovely boys and "why haven't you been snapped up yet?" they reply that they're too busy for stuff like that or they're not interested in dating.
What does that sound like to you? - in the words of Seinfeld "not that there's anything wrong with that" -
BUT if their living arrangements are what i suspect they are surely the holy spirit was on a day off the day they were both appointed as min servants?
-
28
Farewell
by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM indue to unforeseen circumstances, i need to say goodbye.
proverbs 14:16 nlt.
i have every faith that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face.
-
-
pale.emperor
OP, i've just read your previous posts - all letters written to the GB/bOrg over their policies. You clearly dont agree with A LOT of their teachings.
You do realise that because of those letters you'd be held at arms length for a LONG LONG time, perhaps forever. And also the elders would be informed that you're a likely trouble-maker.
This is your ticket out, think before you act.
-
18
Is It Really All That Surprising that Kevin Didn't Go Into the Bunker?
by Wild_Thing injust look at his history!
w00 8/15 pp.
8-11 - the watchtower—2000: "kevin needed an additional $900, so he decided to sell his 16 two-year-old pigeons.
-
-
pale.emperor
Go to wol.jw.org and do a search for Andre. He is one popular guy! It is a name that the Borg has used so much in their examples ... err ... "true life experiences", that it has become a joke!
hahahaha!!
Andre was almost killed by a bomb that took the lives of several of his friends.-
At that time, I was living with some relatives, including a distant younger relative named Andre, who was studying the Bible with Jehovah’s Witnesses. Still, I was curious about the Bible and occasionally read the copy Andre kept in his bedroom.
-
Andre—The more time you spend with a girl, the easier it is for feelings to grow and the more that person will think you’re interested in a romantic friendship.
-
“All I wanted was to get my mail,” explained Andre. “But to realize later that innocent people, a number of whom I knew, were blown to pieces was a great shock.
-
How was Andre pressured to excel in athletics?
-
28
Farewell
by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM indue to unforeseen circumstances, i need to say goodbye.
proverbs 14:16 nlt.
i have every faith that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face.
-
-
pale.emperor
Do what you think is best for you. But...
Did Moses, Noah, Enoch, Amos, Samuel, Elijah etc etc need to "bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face"?
If God directs a person they dont mess it up. Not even once.
All the best to you though.
-
18
Is It Really All That Surprising that Kevin Didn't Go Into the Bunker?
by Wild_Thing injust look at his history!
w00 8/15 pp.
8-11 - the watchtower—2000: "kevin needed an additional $900, so he decided to sell his 16 two-year-old pigeons.
-
-
pale.emperor
Did Andre make it into the bunker?
Are we talking about the black boy that wanted to be a runner but gave it all up so he could go door knocking?