Posts by pale.emperor

Post WW2 Educational Film About Facism Is Startlingly Similar To Watchtower

by pale.emperor in

stumbled across this short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k6-ceajzle.

i encourage you to watch the whole thing, but if you cant, watch from 8:50. it's startlingly similar to the watchtower society..

pale.emperor

Stumbled across this short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6-cEAJZlE

I encourage you to watch the whole thing, but if you cant, watch from 8:50. It's startlingly similar to the Watchtower society.

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My 1 Year Update - I've Been Disfellowshipped One Year Today

by pale.emperor in

what a journey!.

it was a year ago today that i was announced from the platform by brother paul "twofaced" castley that i was "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses".

i didn't go to that meeting to hear the announcement because i already didn't believe the watchtower religion.. how was my first year?

pale.emperor

i got high in Amsterdam
I lolled at that, good to taste our cultural richess!
Anyway, I'm glad you still have your litlle princess under your care and have found more peace in your life and had a few opportunities to anti-witness. Thanks for all your contributions to this forum...cheers from the land of the tulips!

Amsterdam is one of my favorite citys. Marijuana aside, i really love the people, those tall houses, the scenery and your transport system which just works. England needs some of that! Oh and Dutch girls . The accent is damn sexy.

Pale.Emperor

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Judicial meeting questions.

by Fader812 in

why do elders ask such perverted questions during judicial meetings?

kinda creeped me out, actually creeped me out a lot.

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pale.emperor

One of my best friends (female) left the org precisely because of this. She wasn't even baptized, was an unbaptized publisher at 15 and secretly had a worldly boyfriend. On one occasion her bf touched her boobs (shock-horror!) and her sister told on her to the elders.

The story i got from her was, the elders in her cong contacted the CO to determine what action should be taken. She was removed as unbaptized publisher. But for some reason three elders still wanted to talk to her. She was asked the following questions (i swear this is what she told me):

Where were you when this happened?

Did he touch just one or both?

Were you wearing a bra?

Did he move them around or just squeeze them?

Did you like it?

What were you wearing?

Did you get aroused?

Was he aroused?

What were you thinking as he was doing this?

The youngest elder in that room at in his late 50s. The oldest was 80-odd. She was 15. After that she was too creeped out to ever look at them again and never went to another KH. She's now a very successful business woman.

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WT Library being edited

by berrygerry in

i thought that wt would have started doing this, but i have not noticed any posts before.. can anyone confirm (post is from fb)?.

so i have been looking up these different articles to read for myself...one problem.the last time we got a disc was 2015 and i used my mil's disc to down load it to my computer.

they did a update to it last year over the internet, the program updated it's self.

pale.emperor

I think the book 1984 by George Orwell is a perfect example of Watchtower:

At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge, which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.

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we have a laid off bethelite with an engineering degree!

by nowwhat? in

this guy have been at bethel for 25 years when he could have been making 75-100 thousand a year as an engineer.

so they kick him to the curb so they don't have to house him and his wife anymore.

they run into a problem at warwick and they ask him to come back for 3 weeks.

pale.emperor

I remember an interview at an assembley where they interviewed a young brother who was a talented musician and was a piano player in a band. He had to choose between serving Jehovah and touring with the band. He chose Jehovah. Two years later the band was an international name.

Interviewer: Any regrets brother?

Him: None whatsoever.

The band was called Coldplay.

Dick.

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we have a laid off bethelite with an engineering degree!

by nowwhat? in

this guy have been at bethel for 25 years when he could have been making 75-100 thousand a year as an engineer.

so they kick him to the curb so they don't have to house him and his wife anymore.

they run into a problem at warwick and they ask him to come back for 3 weeks.

pale.emperor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFIyOEE-S6I

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My 1 Year Update - I've Been Disfellowshipped One Year Today

by pale.emperor in

what a journey!.

it was a year ago today that i was announced from the platform by brother paul "twofaced" castley that i was "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses".

i didn't go to that meeting to hear the announcement because i already didn't believe the watchtower religion.. how was my first year?

pale.emperor

What a journey!

It was a year ago today that i was announced from the platform by Brother Paul "Twofaced" Castley that i was "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses". I didn't go to that meeting to hear the announcement because i already didn't believe the Watchtower religion.

How was my first year? Well, it's had it's ups and downs for sure. More ups than downs though. My wife moved out to live with her parents, we're still not divorced yet, just "separated" and we share custody of our little girl. Fortunately, my little one was only 2yo when this happened so she slid into the new routine as if nothing had happened. My family, former friends and everyone i knew cut me off immediately.

At the time i still believed in God, but i didn't know who he/she was. So i spent 2 months reading the bible from beginning to end. Not the New World Bastardization, i real bible. I used the NIV (although i have many bibles). I read it on the way to work, on the way home from work and at home until bedtime. I highlighted scriptures that i didn't understand or that i wanted deeper insight on and looked them up online or in bible encyclopedias. Strictly no JW.org or WT Library allowed. I spoke to Catholic priests, i questioned Church Of England vicars, i spoke to a Rabbi, even a Hari Krishna monk (they were more culty than i ever was!). Eventually i read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and, wow, i had to be honest with myself and accept that i had no reason to believe in any God.

So there i was. An atheist. And guess what, life became so much simpler and less worrying with zero guilt for sleeping with a girl or not praying before i eat. Sometimes, even now, i get the urge to pray before im about to eat. So i look up the sky and jokingly say "Thanks Thor!". ;)

I was almost homeless because i had to move out within a few weeks, non of my family would help even though they knew i might be homeless. With 2 days to go "worldly" people helped me find a place to move into, and here i am. Moved house, decorated, collected Hindu idols, joined clubs to get me out and meeting people: life drawing, German language pub meetups, photography club and piano. I swapped Thursday evenings and Sunday mornings at the KH for learning something new. So now i have lots more interests and a lot more love for life.

I dated a teacher who was the image of Katy Perry, I've photographed naked beautiful women for "art purposes" in my photography class, i got high in Amsterdam, i spent 8 hours in a gay bar with my gay friend and left a 7am (i was so hungover that day!), i volunteer to get groceries for an old lady in my street who's in her 90s that cant do it herself, im a member of a political party and i feel great for all of those things. I never did anything useful as a JW but now i feel a part of my community and im happy with who or what i am.

I look at still-in JW's and see how depressed they are. They're looking forward to the "new system" but they don't know they could have that joy and fellowship with their fellowman now. They just have to do it and work towards it.

My very first post is here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5748015927132160/trying-leave-im-going-crazy notice the tone of how stressed and anxious i was, compare to now and the posts after i left.

Thank you everyone on this site. You all helped me more than you'll ever know. I feel like i know you somehow, i recognize your avatars, your names, your style of writing and i have a few favorites that i look forward to reading. Dubstepped and Chook, you two in particular are like my new brothers;) im glad we keep in contact.

So, anyone who's just left or is planning to: it's alot better once you're out if you embrace being out and have a thirst for truth - not matter how inconvenient or blunt it may be, and just go with it. Come on here and rant if you want and ask questions.

Thanks again everyone.

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Why do ones that got out come back in?

by moreconfusedthanever in

i have not been to a meeting for about 2 years now.

i do not intend to go back but one thing has me baffled.

why do ones that have faded and been out for years return?

pale.emperor

It's usually when they go through a major life changing event in their life like a death, new baby or something terrible happens in the world.

Its the only religion they knew so they assume that if any of them are correct it will be the JWs since they "prophesied" all these things. When in reality they said the world is terrible and getting worse.

When a new baby is born they think "I really don't want my baby to die In Armageddon" so make a fresh start.

People who come back never fully purged the propaganda from themselves.

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Another JW Urban Legend Thread

by Funchback in

threads about jw urban legends are nothing new on this forum.

they are loads of fun to read.

how many of you remember the one about the teenager who skipped the meeting and decided to get into a car with his worldly friends and they worldly guys decided to rob a store and the jw didn't know they were going to do so but he was arrested simply for being with them?.

pale.emperor

There was a popular one here in England that was told to me so many times. It's was always "someone's friend" it happened to. A JW woman walking home alone and being followed by a strange man. She says a prayer and the man stops following her. Later he's arrrested to attacking and raping another woman.

When questioned by police he said he stopped following her because two big men were walking with her.

Bull - Shit

Ive heard about 20 versions of this story.

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

pale.emperor

I'd like to see my approach and attempt at a conversion re-enacted on one of those silhouette presentations they show at the CLAM.

GIRL 1: (to her friend) ...and that's just the beginning, the petrol costs about £50 a week...

ME: <i take a magazine from her hand> Hi. Are you Jehovah's Witnesses?

GIRL 1: Yes (turns to her friend) ....and now im paying £145 a month in insurance alone, i never had this problem with the Renault Cleo...

ME: Yeah, i think i spoke to one of you a few weeks ago. I enjoyed your magazine.

GIRL 2: ...It really depends on the model. My dad used to drive a Ford Focus...

ME: ...

GIRL 1: You can take another one if you like...

ME: What's the book about?

GIRL 1: It's a book that helps you understand the bible.... (to her friend) ...dont go with a rental car. They just eat the money up...

GIRL 2: ...i could go on my dads insurance i suppose...

ME: ...

GIRL 1: ...

GIRL 2: ...

Both now just standing staring at the street.

ME: ...

I walk away bewildered that they even managed to get that job. But at least i got a magazine and 2 books to throw in the next bin i saw.