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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

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  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  Initially it was the girls parents that uploaded the vid, they thought it was "encouraging". They removed it soon though when the response wasn't as well received as they thought. Fortunately myself and JW Survey had snatched it before they deleted it.

  Imagine this girl getting DFd next week. The emotional toil that would have on her - at 10yrs old - of every JW shunning her AND her parents still not allowing her to have non JW friends.

  Her support system is gone.

  Her still developing personality and life references are now damaged.

  Her childhood ruined.
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  Kids ... and baptism.

  by Tallon in

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  i have noticed, from reading posts on this and other related websites, what to me is an alarming practice taking place within the jw's.

  and that is the baptism of kids.. on a recent discussion posted by pe ( video of the girl now forced to shun her sister) this child was baptised at 9 years old.

  all of us who were baptised at a much older age know of the many questions one needs to give serious consideration and understanding of to become eligible for baptism, not to mention the two baptism questions asked before being dunked.. surely the organisation must know that children of such a young age are not mature enough to fully grasp the seriousness, demands and consequences of making such a decision.. another point; if jesus is the example to follow, then why did he only get baptised at age 30, and he was perfect!.

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  Youngest I've heard of was 6yo. Heard it on JW Bored-casting. Steven Lett was wetting his pants telling us.
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  Do you feel comfortable being an apostate?

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  i always found it uncomfortable to informal witness to people but trying to convince a jw to jump ship brings much more pleasure..

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  My ex-family and other disgruntled JWs use it as an attempt to shame me, but I correct them with:

  "Actually, im a heretic. Even if God does exist I think he's a genocidal, mass murdering, slavery condoning c*nt."

  They don't came back for seconds.
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  Kids ... and baptism.

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed, from reading posts on this and other related websites, what to me is an alarming practice taking place within the jw's.

  and that is the baptism of kids.. on a recent discussion posted by pe ( video of the girl now forced to shun her sister) this child was baptised at 9 years old.

  all of us who were baptised at a much older age know of the many questions one needs to give serious consideration and understanding of to become eligible for baptism, not to mention the two baptism questions asked before being dunked.. surely the organisation must know that children of such a young age are not mature enough to fully grasp the seriousness, demands and consequences of making such a decision.. another point; if jesus is the example to follow, then why did he only get baptised at age 30, and he was perfect!.

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  I don't know about you guys but my baptism questions from elders were merely a formality. The 2nd elder spent an hour talking about his holiday to Cyprus then said "oh I better ask you done questions" then asked me TWO easy questions and went back to his holiday stories.

  The questions right before you get dipped no one is really thinking about, just say "yes!" because everyone is watching.

  I was baptised at 19 because my family and friends kept asking me why I wasn't baptised. That was it. Only two others were baptised that day, both have also woken up and left.
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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.goines.399/videos/330594177399539/
  
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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  At 10yo, whats to say she herself wont wake up in her teens or early 20s? I hope she does. And then what? She loses her family and has to try and find her sister who she shunned all those years and hope she forgives her. Because i tell you what, i wont forgive my family even if they woke up and tried to regain contact. Too much has been done, too much they've said and tried to disrupt the only family i have.
  
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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  pale.emperor

  This poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

  She isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.

  Here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YzGNfDa8kI
  
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  The special talk is now BEFORE the Memorial

  by wifibandit in

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  august 11, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 memorial invitations and date of special talk .

  fyi:.

  the 2018 memorial will be held on saturday, march 31, 2018.. the 2019 memorial will be held on friday, april 19, 2019..

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  pale.emperor

  Hmm... it's almost as if nobody's really interested in attending the special talk in the first place.
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  Returning to the truth.

  by Justmeok2 in

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  hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.

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  i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..

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  Dedicating your life you Jehovah is fine.

  However, dedicating your life to an organization with a long track record of false predictions, child abuse cover ups and misquoting people in their publications is not.

  Remember, the baptism question they use is "Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism." - this is not the way it's outlined in the bible.
  
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  Grooming Young Ones

  by Listener in

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  2. child-abuse

  i came across a youtuber 'ask a jehovah's witness' who phoned an elder and spoke to him about some of his concerns regarding children and the jw org website.

  he made some very valid points.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbe_g4vkcg0he came across a very disturbing instruction directed towards teenagers on the jw website.

  it's under the heading of 'teenagers ask: how to avoid pornography'.

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  pale.emperor

  Imagine a young sister approaching an older elder telling him each week that she had a relapse and masturbated. You telling me that elder isnt gonna have mental imagery?

  For godsakes Watchtower, lets us have a wank if we want one.