Now is the time Kim Jong needs to be taken out. But the tried and tested method always consists of supporting a rebel, help him into power, fund his new government then watch as they just become the new dictatorship of that country.
pale.emperor
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Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan
by cofty instory breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.
nk is a national cult of personality.
hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..
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"The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction." -- Feb 2017 Watchtower
by cognisonance infull stop.
(paragraph 12 -- feburary 2017 watchtower -- who is leading god's people today?
)so why then would any jw abide by harmful doctrines setup by the governing body (blood, shunning, the two-witness rule, etc)?
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pale.emperor
Annoying isnt it?
I used this reasoning with my family and the elders when i left:
"If they're neither inspired nor infallible then why is their opinion worth any more than yours or mine? What are they for? Why should we follow them?"
The reply was always something like "because Jehovah selected them".
And so the merry go round starts. Circular reasoning and doublespeak.
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Ex-JWs In The Dating Scene - It's A Whole New Game
by pale.emperor insince leaving watchtower it still strikes me as odd how little i knew the real world and how it works.
i thought i knew how it worked but it turns out i didnt.
as jws we were always "courting with a view to marriage".you go on one date with a girl and everyone's expecting you're gonna marry her?
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pale.emperor
Since leaving Watchtower it still strikes me as odd how little i knew the real world and how it works. I thought i knew how it worked but it turns out i didnt. As JWs we were always "courting with a view to marriage".You go on one date with a girl and everyone's expecting you're gonna marry her? You know the drill. You meet at a JW get-together or convention. You get the number. You arrange to meet up at a party or something (lots of chaperones of course). You maybe kiss. You date for a few years then get engaged. Looking back is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.
Surprisingly (especially for me) it's taken me over a year to fuly understand the dating scene in the real world. My situation: Im a soon-to-be-divorced dad of 32yo. My ex is still JW. Since my ex and i split up i've had 2 girlfriends, both of which escalated quicker than i'd liked simply because i didst understand the dating scene in the real world. I thought once you "get" with a girl you're obliged to stick with her.
Allow me to explain.... i go to an art class every other Sunday. A few weeks ago i meet a girl in this class and we hit it off. We swap numbers and end up going for a drink of tea in some fancy-shmancy tea shop (this is England guys, we love our tea). After a delightful hour of talking and drinking tea we depart and make arrangements. Fast forward, a week later we're having sex. A week after that things have cooled down and i hardly hear from her. I dont wanna look like one of "those guys" that are insecure but it's bugging me as to what this is so i ask her. She replied "oh, i just wanted to have sex with you. Why? What did you thing this was?"
Now, thats fine. Really, it is. But i really had this strange idea in my head that im supposed to "court" this girl afterwards. Or at least be her "boyfriend" for a while. As liberating as it was it really hit home to me how little i really knew of the real world and how it works. Dont get me wrong, im 100% for women being sexually liberated, but i've never had that happen before. When i told my female friends they just said "yeah, she's just done what most guys do to girls they like".
Did any of you have any difficulty transitioning into the real world relationship-wise?
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Just A Thought Regarding The Bunker Video
by pale.emperor inas ridiculous as the bunker video was, a few things popped into my consciousness as i was riding the train today.
firstly, why did they go to all the expense and effort to not only create a bunker, but to furnish it like a living room complete with coffee table, armchair, shelves etc?
i mean, a bunker should be a bunker... boxes of tinned food, tools, medical supplies, emergency gear etc.
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pale.emperor
Lock me in a bunker with that girl and you'd have the first great tribulation JC. Although I don't think there's 3 elders there.
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Just A Thought Regarding The Bunker Video
by pale.emperor inas ridiculous as the bunker video was, a few things popped into my consciousness as i was riding the train today.
firstly, why did they go to all the expense and effort to not only create a bunker, but to furnish it like a living room complete with coffee table, armchair, shelves etc?
i mean, a bunker should be a bunker... boxes of tinned food, tools, medical supplies, emergency gear etc.
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As ridiculous as the bunker video was, a few things popped into my consciousness as i was riding the train today.
Firstly, WHY did they go to all the expense and effort to not only create a bunker, but to furnish it like a living room complete with coffee table, armchair, shelves etc? I mean, a bunker should be a bunker... boxes of tinned food, tools, medical supplies, emergency gear etc.
Second, WHY did they fit it with A NORMAL DOOR?!! A bunker would require a sturdy, heavy, metal door that should be bomb proof. When i worked in immigration i spent a few months working in a top security area where we kept blank passports, citizenship certificates and official stamps. Obviously not just anybody could go in there, you had to have top clearance (like i did). That door was one sturdy, heavy mother. I was told it was bullet proof, bomb proof and would take a tank to knock it in. As you saw from the bunker video, all it took was one 21st century gestapo dude to kick it in.
Third, the hot girl that broke down in tears because she had doubts (not explicitly mentioned, but implied), doesn't this show how extreme the org is. You have doubts about doctrine so you break down in tears? Why? It's almost as if you'd lose everyone you love unless you do believe it. Keeping your family is a pretty strong incentive to want to believe something no matter how crazy.
And lastly, those "naughty" brothers that have noticed the bullshit in the Watchtowers new
shitelight. Can you blame them? No explanation is ever given WHY or HOW the GB got this new information. We're just supposed to accept it. You even see one of the brothers approach the speaker with a bible in hand discussing it with him. A bible. Not a Watchtower. How can reasoning from the bible ever be considered bad form for an organization that claims authority on scripture?There are more things, but i wont go into them all right now.
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Chapter 23 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 23.
in 1970 i saw a move that changed my life forever.
which looking back, would have been a total blessing from god.
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pale.emperor
Sounds like a lot of misfits end up in Bethel (excluding you new boy).
This would all make a great sitcom.
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Trouble in paradise!
by Confusedalot injust for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
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pale.emperor
They forget little problems like this.
Also, as regards to clothes, fashions change all the time. Even in a utopia there's bound to be changes in clothing due to preference or to combat boredom of wearing the same thing. But then if the "kings and princes" ruling from heaven are dictating to us what to wear (no tight pants, skirts to a certain length etc) we're actually gonna be living in North Korea. Can men grow their hair in paradise? Or will there be a list of 5 acceptable haircuts like in North Korea?
No cool haircut. No cool clothes. No hot girls in spandex. No emo girls. No goths. No Rammstein. No more Quentin Tarentino films. No eating meat.
Shoot me now! Oh wait, you cant, im immortal. Noooooooooooooooo!!!
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Going Through A Box Of Old Photo's. Found This...
by pale.emperor injw wedding early 1980s and where they are now.... .
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pale.emperor
Hey Pale. Very interesting photo but are you sure that those you've listed as PIMO would be happy for their photo to be out there on t'internet?
In hindsight i probably shouldn't have. But there's no way of me deleting this thread.
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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake
by JustHuman14 ini haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.
being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.
new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".
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pale.emperor
I never condemn anyone who wishes to return after learning TTATT, as long as people are making informed decisions with all the evidence available to them then that's fine. But im glad you seen for yourself how it is all superficial and fake.
Personally, i'd rather shoot myself that return to that cult.
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Going Through A Box Of Old Photo's. Found This...
by pale.emperor injw wedding early 1980s and where they are now.... .
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pale.emperor
The guy in prison is a real nut case. Even back then we were told not to go near him. He had about 8 or 9 kids that were ALWAYS taken off him and his wife by social services. But they just kept having babies. He was a violent bully and most likely a psychopath. He broke his own babys jaw. One of his kids he locked in a wardrobe and fed her nettles. Seriously a F-d up individual. His wife never did divorce him, most likely was beating her up too.
is he still a dub ?
Im not sure to be honest mate. He's not the kind of person you'd want to upset so i wouldn't be surprised if the elders are just leaving him alone. He's got at least another 6 years left inside.