Posts by pale.emperor

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Chapter 50 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

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chapter 50. life after death.

since i had been in a religion that was focused on death.

it was now time to focus on life.. the wonderful line from shawshank redemption says it so well.

pale.emperor

Two things...

First did god kill the baby because it got a blood transfusion to drive the point home to the disobedient husband?

Although the doG of the old testament loved killing children (Bathsheba's baby, firstborn Egyptians) i dont think he was responsible for this one.

He told the elders he was wrong and blamed his “worldly wife” for the pressure she had put one him. He begged them for their forgiveness.

I bet they loved that. Although, even if doG does exist, and even if he is anti-blood transfusion, it's not the elders they should be asking for forgiveness.

What a sad story. And unfortunately, not an isolated incident.

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Brain tumor causes woman to become JW (4 times!)

by Anders Andersen in

why one woman mysteriously started hearing 'divine' voices.

after doctors admitted the woman to the psychiatric unit of the hospital, they learned that this wasn't the first time she felt a strong interest in religion and spirituality.

she described four previous times in her life, beginning at age 13 and again at ages 23, 32 and 41, when she experienced periods of intense spiritual and religious devotion.during these periods, which lasted about a year or two, she would join jehovah's witnesses and then later resign, when she lost interest, according to the report.as part of her psychiatric evaluation, the woman also underwent an mri.

pale.emperor

When i studied hypnosis there was a guy there that could make an atheist have a "spiritual experience" simply using suggestion. He de-converted them afterwards, but the lesson was that we cant just trust our emotional highs as a sign of God or whatever.

Some religious people there actually walked out.

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Past child abuse comes to bit me in the butt

by Still Totally ADD in

here i am 63 years old, out of the cult going on 8 years, went through a year of therapy back in 2007, been working very hard to become the person i have always wanted to be.

but what happen to me a few days ago just blew me out of the water for the past two days.

i am now finally coming to grips with my emotions and understanding what caused me such distress.. here's what happen.

pale.emperor

Whenever someone reacts that way with me i just say "f*"k 'em". She has the problem, not you.

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

pale.emperor

The best thing you can say to an elder when they poke their nose in is:

"This is my religion. You're not the FBI or CIA. Go away little man..."

Then enjoy their reaction. Their power instantly removed from them. They do-not-like-it!

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

pale.emperor

oh boy did i!

It didnt help that i was married to an elders daughter to would not only turn me in for silly things but would even turn herself in!

I had elders investigating me for for putting a £5 bet on a football match, owning a little Netherlands flag on my bookcase, collecting bibles, reading the Koran, learning Hebrew, growing what they thought was a marijuana plant (it was a Japanese Mapel, and one of the elders who called was supposed to be a gardener), for low FS, for working with a single sister on the ministry when i had no FS partner... lots more.

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Crazy statements from JWTalk

by Jehovah lol in

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i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.

here is a sampling:.

"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".

pale.emperor

If you're too dense to understand that then perhaps you belong back in the truth.

In the what?

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Will The Watchtower Ever Give Up Mandatory Shunning Of DF'd Members?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think the wt will never give up this practice unless forced to by the courts, even if they are financially failing terribly they will keep it because the moment they do get rid of it the whole thing will collapse even faster and they know it(or afraid of it happening).

they have painted themselves into a corner of financial ruin.

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pale.emperor

The jws still view the Bible as more important than or above organisation, even by representatives of their organisation. Only until they reinterpret "remove the wicked man among yourselves" as a removal from congregation rather than family...

pomo, the org literally re-wrote the bible. Lots of things they do contradict the bible but the members just "wait on Jehovah". The GB is their God.

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Will The Watchtower Ever Give Up Mandatory Shunning Of DF'd Members?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think the wt will never give up this practice unless forced to by the courts, even if they are financially failing terribly they will keep it because the moment they do get rid of it the whole thing will collapse even faster and they know it(or afraid of it happening).

they have painted themselves into a corner of financial ruin.

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pale.emperor

Ask many JWs and they'll claim they're not being forced to shun us, but they shun us because they want to. They've actually convinced themselves it's their own decision. Like many of their rules they think that it's not about being allowed or not allowed, it's about loyalty to Jehovah.

Of course they have free will, but acting upon that free will will have repercussions for them.

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December 6, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Study of Jesus—The Way

by wifibandit in

december 6, 2017 to all congregations re: study of jesus—the way.

jesus—the way, the truth, the life.

pale.emperor

Oh man im so glad i dont have to sit and study any of those stupid books. Back in the day, the Greatest Man book was actually interesting... until you got to the group, then they sucked all the interest out of it.

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CLAM MEETING Dumbing down

by freddo in

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so yesterday was the midweek meeting - the first of the month for december so instead of locals doing the little talk skits we get the on screen shadow puppets.. after each one the ms taking the item asks the congregation for "positive" comments.. part way through i get a text from a pimo brother enduring the show which reads thus (and i quote word for word ...).

"it's like listening to a bunch of people from a mental institution.

".

pale.emperor

I remember the stupid silhouette videos they show. Fortunately i was out a year after they came in. Perhaps they dont want people getting up on the platform anymore doing demos.