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  Developments in the India Branch

  by MaxPayne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following letter was read in the congregation today.

  it's for all the congregations in india.

  i have pasted it as it was.

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  Are any of you able to make a specific donation toward this need? Your donation can be placed in the contribution box marked “Worldwide Work” in your Kingdom Hall. Or are some of you in a position to make a conditional donation or loan until the branch is sold and then your donation would be returned to you?

  “‘Zion’s Watch Tower’ has, we believe, JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: ‘All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” - Zion’s Watch Tower July 1879

  Personally, I find the idea of a billion dollar publishing company asking poor Indian brothers for money so they can further their own cause to be sickening.
  
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  What happened to jtrottigy?

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious if he's still lurking and making idle threats.

  you can't find all of us who are on jwtalk!

  hopefully what you've read on this site has made you start to think and see the truth about the organisation though that "it's not the truth!

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  There hasnt been a JW yet that's managed to stay here with their faith in tact. He ran away like they all do.

  Did he last longer than "a few days" like I predicted? https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5148568701632512/welcoming-our-latest-jw-apologist-jtrottigy
  
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  2018/19 new light

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.

  today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.

  they say people in warwick were commenting on this.

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  The one doctrine they need to revise to keep alive is 1914.

  People are getting impatient.
  
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  Superb must watch video

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xft_aeqw2ga.

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  Watched this last night. It's VERY well put together and researched. A faded JW friend of mine watched it in mine this morning too and was surprised about the child abuse part.
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  Jehovah’s Witness dating rules

  by Addison0998 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i’m sorry that i talk about dating a lot, i know it is probably very annoying, but you don’t have to read it.

  but did anyone else have the most difficult time dating as a young jw?

  me and my boyfriend have been dating for a year in half, we are in our early 20’s, and we are still not allowed to hold hands, cuddle or kiss.

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  Ah I remember Lydia the elders daughter. She was 18, I was 23. There we were not having sex for our three year relationship... we were so frustrated we resorted to her dry humping me whenever the chaperone wasnt around.

  Wonder where she is now?

  Look, this whole "no sex before marriage" thing is bad enough, but being constantly watched and snapped at for a lingering hug is just unhealthy.

  Get out! Get out now and just do whatever comes natural to the both of you.
  
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  J.W`s Taking the Oath To Tell The Truth on The Bible / Affirmation

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how outdated is the compulsion of people before the law courts of the land to take an oath on the bible to /swear on the bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help me god.or its equivalent affirmation.?.

  and even if you do claim to believe in god but feel giving information to those who don`t deserve it then withholding such information is justified as theocratic warfare deliberately misleading those seeking such information.. if you don`t believe in a god ,you can lie all you like .. and in the case of geoffrey jackson at the a.r.c.

  into institutions of child sexual abuse ,he had no problem misleading ,another word for lying to the a.r.c.

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  I remember about a year ago I was having a solicitor countersign a legal document and she said I'd need to swear some sort of oath on my "holy book". I chose the Quran. She obviously knew I wasnt Muslim and likely saw that it was all bollocks having to do it in the first place. Then I had to put my hand on it and read aloud from a piece of paper which said "I swear on <holy book name> that the statement I present is factual and true".

  Of course I may have well have made an oath on the Chronicles Of Narnia for all it meant to me.
  
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #11 - Tiktaalik

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the biggest gulfs that life has had to cross was the transition from sea to dry land.. fish have conical shaped heads, reptiles have flat heads.

  fish have no necks; their heads are attached to their shoulders by a series of bony plates.

  land-dwelling animals all have necks; their heads can move independently of their shoulders.

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  And for those creationists laughing at the idea of a fish "walking onto dry land"... there actually are amphibians that do this. Meet the Mudskipper:

  
  

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudskipper
  
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  For JWs Lurking Here: This Is How Your Governing Body Are Robbing You

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello to all the active jehovah's witnesses lurking on here, or those having doubts.

  seriously, i welcome you.. i was explaining to one of my friends recently about how the watchtower society uses it's members to make them money every day without them even realizing it.

  unbelievable?

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  Maybe they will go into the digital Tablet selling business.

  I remember when JWBroadcasting came out and entire congregations were flocking to buy a Roku on which to watch it on. My mum was very smug and proud that she was one of the first in her congregation to have one. I believe the elders wives and her all went out together to get one. It was like a sign that you were oh so more spiritual than everyone else because you were watching Stephen fucking Lett in HD with his stupid eyebrows shooting up and down.
  

  So Roku can thank the Watchtower society for the surge in sales when the channel was rolled out.

  
  

  All it would take is for Watchtower to team up with Samsung or Apple and say that this is their approved device and they'd all buy them.

  Are you reading this Bethel lurker? You could do a good deal there and make some $$$.
  
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  Dec 2018 Watchtower Third Heaven & Paradise

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a qfr in the watchtower asks ".

  n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?​—2 cor.

  they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.

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  From Wikipedia:

  New Testament

  In 2 Corinthians Paul the Apostle writes, "I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows. And I know that such a person—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows—was caught up into Paradise and heard things that are not to be told, that no mortal is permitted to repeat."[6] According to E. W. Bullinger, the Greek says "caught away", not "caught up" possibly reflecting Jewish beliefs that Paradise was somewhere other than the uppermost heaven.[7]

  Ideas about the system of "heavens" held by Jews and Christians in first-century communities are also evident in the non-canonical Second Book of Enoch (see previous section).

  New Testament apocrypha

  According to the Apocalypse of James,[8] John the Baptist dwells in the Third Heaven.

  It seems Paul was familiar with, and believed in, the apocryphal book of Enoch. The idea of heaven and paradise being the same thing makes much more sense to me without Watchtower goggles on. According to Islam, each level of heaven is made of different things, the third heaven being made of pearl.

  Interesting. Complete bullshit, but interesting.
  
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  Dec 2018 Watchtower Third Heaven & Paradise

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a qfr in the watchtower asks ".

  n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?​—2 cor.

  they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.

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  ...they would go direct to the Seventh Heaven where they would have a permanent erection and be serviced by 72 young girls (and boys) who's virginity would be miraculously restored every day.

  I dont know why Jihadists would want 72 virgins. Sex with a virgin isnt a prize, it's horrible.

  Give me two fire-breathing whores anyday of the week!