Posts by pale.emperor

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Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us

by Truthexplorer in

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ok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).

there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.

i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.

pale.emperor

I know at least one awake person in my old hall. It's a damn shame because his wife and kids are fully in and we used to have some great conversations one on one and laugh at the BS that is Watchtower.

Unfortunately, he made the mistake of befriending an elder. Who promptly ~~pressured~~ assisted this brother to reach out. He and his family now go on holidays with all the elder families, spend bank holidays on walks and picnics with the elder families and is now too far in to be able to leave quietly. Even though he knows it's all rubbish.

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A sucker is born every minute

by Sour Grapes in

i was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.

i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.

i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.

pale.emperor

The absurd (what isn't?) reason for this was that if Adam were to be left without a wife for decades then he could be tempted into bestiality.
"Will Jehovah allow Adam to be tempted into bestiality?" said Franz.
"No brothers and sisters." was his response to his own question.

hahahahahahahahaha!!!! oh my word!! hahahahaha!! stop!! stop it!! im screaming laughing here!!! hahahahahahahahhaha!!!!

That bro Franz should've been on stage, maybe even a tour of the US. Move over Robin Williams, Bill Hicks and George Carlin - Bro Franz is hilarious!!

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JW charged regarding child pornography

by Listener in

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article39058014.html#1.

church shouldn't have divulged child-porn suspect's alleged confession, attorney says.

elders in the jehovah’s witnesses church violated the confidentiality of steven lindhorst of paso robles when they told police about an alleged confession he made regarding child pornography, according to a defense motion.. .

pale.emperor

Well done to those elders who reported it.

Cummon guys, credit it where it's due - id report a pedo, confidentiality or non.

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Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....

by jambon1 in

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every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .

if they don't end up being jw's.

if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.

pale.emperor

I hear ya.

Although im happier being out i still have pangs of sadness every now and then throughout the day thinking of my family. They all genuinely believe that im deliberately going against Jehovah. When in actual fact i've tried to tell them that i respect that they believe it but i simply dont.

They would be happy for me to pretend to be a JW and work on my beliefs later. It's so bizarre.

And what i find most annoying is - you look at all the WT or dramas they put out... they show the disfellowshipped person as the one being headstrong and prideful walking out the door with his bags or standing there arms folded and the parents sitting there crying and comforting one another. In my case, at least, its the opposite. No one wanted to hear my reasons for leaving or what lead to me coming to my decision. I wanted to leave so that was all they needed to hear.

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Craziest thing I've seen in field service

by Chook in

working an area in town with this brother who after knocking on door and finding no one home , he stands behind small tree and has piss on front lawn.fairdinkim.i hope they weren't peeping through binds,but then again better the piss than the shit mags we were going to leave..

pale.emperor

I remember our group was witnessing in a tower block. One of those run down, poorly kept tower blocks that are filled with wierdos, drug addicts and the mentally ill.

Knock on a door and a homeless looking fella invites us in. We go in. The place is filthy. No carpet, wallpaper hanging off the walls, ashtrays and discarded food all over the tables and chars. And a huge pile of empty beer cans behind his sofa.

He has a painting of the virgin mary and baby jesus above his... well, that place where your fire would usually be... he told us he originally wanted to be a priest but wasn't allowed. Of course we fed him lines about him obviously being a someone who wants to serve God etc and hoping to draw him in. He suddenly put on a little girls voice and went "princess" as if he was talking to someone in the room. He would talk to us normally then suddenly put a little girls voice on again and say "princess".

Turns out, princess is his cat. That went missing in this very room 4 years ago.

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The Governing Body - your thoughts?

by pale.emperor in

im no medical professional, but i have my own opinions of the gb members.

i'd be interested to get yours.. no jokes please, im gonna be 100% serious and would like you to be too.. anthony morris iii - narcissist, controlling, possibly psychopath.

knows full well it's all bullshit but loves the power.. stephen lett - mentally ill, fantasist, liar who genuinely believes the lies he tells.. samuel hird - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by god.

pale.emperor

If i had to pick, I dont know which one i'd want to speak up for me at armageddon:

Anthony Morris III - nuke him!

Stephen Lett - :-) :-D :-S ;-o :-P :-)

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My Lawyers Letter To The Elders

by pale.emperor in

for those of you that asked, below is a copy of my solicitors letter to the elders in my old congregation.

he sent a similar one directly to bethel and a medical directive to my daughters gp to go on her medical records that i have already given permission for her to have a blood transfusion should she need one:.

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pale.emperor

I think some of you are way overreacting to that picture. Apparently you never read comic books as a kid or watched any action or sci-fi movies. I can assure you I was exposed to the Paradise book, the Live Forever book, etc. and somehow I survived. Just saying

Yeah, but my daughter is 2.

She reads three little pigs, goldilocks and the three bears etc and then she's shown this???

Using the same argument, why dont JW kids play Grand Theft Auto or Street Fighter then?

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Dressed up five days ahead of special assembly in Puerto Rico!!

by never a jw in

an hour ago i went to bid good bye my two brothers in law and their wives (all elders/elderettes).

they were invited to the special assembly in puerto rico this coming weekend.

they are boarding the plane in about three hours (leaves at 1:00 am pacific.

pale.emperor

I remember we were told keep our badges on during lunch breaks outside and coming/going from home to the conventions. I never did. NO ONE ever asks what the badge is for, they just assume (quite rightly) we're a bunch of wierdo's with GOD and JEHOVAH pinned to our chests.

Saw some the other day in town, was so tempted to ask them about their badge so they could jump at the opportunity to talk about their convention. My question would be "but what if you decided to leave your religion? what happens then?"

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The Governing Body - your thoughts?

by pale.emperor in

im no medical professional, but i have my own opinions of the gb members.

i'd be interested to get yours.. no jokes please, im gonna be 100% serious and would like you to be too.. anthony morris iii - narcissist, controlling, possibly psychopath.

knows full well it's all bullshit but loves the power.. stephen lett - mentally ill, fantasist, liar who genuinely believes the lies he tells.. samuel hird - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by god.

pale.emperor

Im no medical professional, but i have my own opinions of the GB members. I'd be interested to get yours.

No jokes please, im gonna be 100% serious and would like you to be too.

Anthony Morris III - narcissist, controlling, possibly psychopath. Knows full well it's all bullshit but loves the power.

Stephen Lett - mentally ill, fantasist, liar who genuinely believes the lies he tells.

Samuel Hird - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by God

Gerrit Lösch - deluded and likely a liar who knows he's a fraud.

Geoffrey Jackson - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by God

Mark Sanderson - liar, narcissist with an inferiority complex

David Splane - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by God

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'Anointeds' Do you know any and if so what are they like ?

by Introvert 2 in

would like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .

pale.emperor

There was one in the congregation i grew up in. Nice enough fella, except it hit the roof once when he was on platform mic duty and during the meeting the speak asked me sitting in the front row if i'd adjust his mic for him because he knocked it. I did. The "anointed" brother on mic duty marched up to me, put his face in front of mine and said something like "next time ASK ME to do it, it's like a slap in the face you taking over my job!".

Another one was my ex-girlfriends dad. Only problem was sometimes he thought he was anointed, other times he didnt. So every so often he wouldnt take the bread and wine and then next time he would again.