I kept thinking as i was watching it WHY would you tell them anything? Id've just stopped going to the meetings, shacked up with my new girl and lived my life. Don't know why he'd want to be tied to a cult when he obviously doesn't want to be there.
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The Hypocrisy Of A Judical Committee
by pale.emperor ini posted the elders training school video of how to conduct a judicial committee on my youtube channel last night.
it got me thinking of the hypocrisy of the whole thing.
and also how in their own publications they ridiculed the pharisees for the way they dealt with jesus... which is the very same manner they use on the flock.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzmgjjpafk.
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Petty Rules
by HereIgo indid your congregation have any petty man made rules?
i remember the elders in my cong didn't like if a single brother and single sister walked in the parking lot together after the meeting ended, to their car.
you couldn't hold the mic or give a talk without a coat (that might be a universal jw rule).
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pale.emperor
No beards or stubble (mustache was ok though)
No hand holding in the KH, even if you're married.
No sitting with your arm around your partner or their chair, even if you're married.
Must wear a suit jacket when doing the mics, or on platform (although when i visited a KH in Munich, Germany the speaker had no jacket, no tie, and short sleeved shirt).
In another congregation there's an infamous elder that demands all speakers to wear a white shirt. He even keeps a spare white shirt in the 2nd school in case (horror of horrors) the visiting speaker turns up not wearing a white shirt.
A few witness parties that i went to, an elder would stand by the bar keeping a tally of how many drinks each person has had then tell them when they think they've had too much.
I got a talking to because i wore a black wedding ring (im a marilyn manson fan but they didnt know that). I told them that wedding rings themselves are pagan so in a strict sense we shouldn't be wearing them at all.
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The Hypocrisy Of A Judical Committee
by pale.emperor ini posted the elders training school video of how to conduct a judicial committee on my youtube channel last night.
it got me thinking of the hypocrisy of the whole thing.
and also how in their own publications they ridiculed the pharisees for the way they dealt with jesus... which is the very same manner they use on the flock.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzmgjjpafk.
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pale.emperor
I posted the elders training school video of how to conduct a judicial committee on my YouTube channel last night. It got me thinking of the hypocrisy of the whole thing. And also how in their own publications they ridiculed the pharisees for the way they dealt with Jesus... which is the very same manner THEY use on the flock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzmGJJpaFk
[Sources from The Watchtower April 1st 2011]
...they wanted his execution to appear to be legal. An analysis of their efforts to achieve that end moved one law professor to dub the whole affair “the darkest crime known to the history of jurisprudence.”
The Law that Moses delivered to Israel has been called “the greatest and most enlightened system of jurisprudence ever promulgated.” By Jesus’ day, however, legalistically minded rabbis had added to it a mass of extra-Biblical rules, many of which were later recorded in the Talmud.
The Witnesses themselves have added many of their own "laws" to what Jesus commanded. Whole blood/blood fractions, IVF, critical thinking, wanting to leave the org, 1914, overlapping generation to name just a few.
Courts could not initiate charges but merely investigated accusations brought before them.
Annas’ actions flouted the rule that capital charges were to be tried by day, not by night. Moreover, any fact-finding should have taken place in open court, not behind closed doors.
Judicial committees ARE taken place behind closed doors with no witnesses allowed.
So the high priest tried to get Jesus to incriminate himself. “Do you say nothing in reply?” he asked. “What is it these are testifying against you?” (Mark 14:60) This tactic was completely out of line. “Putting the question to the accused, and founding a condemnation on his answer, was [a] violation of formal justice,” observes Innes, quoted earlier.
The very first question a person is asked in a JC is "do you know why you are here?"
According to the Mosaic Law, trials were to be held in public. (Deuteronomy 16:18; Ruth 4:1) This, on the other hand, was a secret trial. No one attempted to or was allowed to speak in Jesus’ favor. No examination was made of the merits of Jesus’ claim to Messiahship. Jesus had no opportunity to summon witnesses for his defense. There was no orderly voting among the judges as to guilt or innocence.
This is so exactly like a JC you could be confused into thinking they modeled it after the pharisees. If you wanted your JC in front of anyone you'd be refused. And they'd hold the committee anyway without you present and make their decision with you not being there.
Many legal commentators have analyzed the Gospel accounts of Jesus’ trial. They have concluded that it was a sham, a travesty of justice. “That such a trial should be begun and finished and sentence formally pronounced, between midnight and morning, was a violence done to the forms and rules of Hebrew law as well as to the principles of justice,” writes one lawyer. A professor of law says: “The whole procedure was permeated with such gross illegality and such flagrant irregularities that the result can be considered nothing short of judicial murder.”
In a JC, a person can be disfellowshipped within the space of an hour, let alone between midnight and morning.
The Watchtowers own reasoning clearly shows such behavior is unacceptable, a travesty and illegal. Yet they are so blind to see that they do it themselves.
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7 Things Most JW's Dont Know They're Supposed To Believe
by pale.emperor ini decided to spend my sunday morning creating a youtube video highlighting 7 things most jw's dont know they're supposed to believe.
most of these i learned only after my exit of the cult.
here's hoping a few jw's will stumble upon it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er44oc0p4ny&feature=youtu.be.
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pale.emperor
Tell the religious bullies that if they are so concerned about there own leaders being on the record ,then tell them that their God should of guided them to first register the domain name Jehovahswitness.com
Laughing my ass off over here! I never knew about that site.
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7 Things Most JW's Dont Know They're Supposed To Believe
by pale.emperor ini decided to spend my sunday morning creating a youtube video highlighting 7 things most jw's dont know they're supposed to believe.
most of these i learned only after my exit of the cult.
here's hoping a few jw's will stumble upon it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er44oc0p4ny&feature=youtu.be.
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pale.emperor
Thanks. I got a message from someone claiming to be from the WT society asking me to remove it.
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Deborah Francis-White Rolls the Dice Series 1 - Episode 2 Offline
by RodrigoGuerreiro inhi the excellent episode about the jws just stopped to be available at bbc i-player.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07zhwl7/episodes/guide.
anyone have an alternative link for that particular episode?.
edit: *deborah frances-white.
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pale.emperor
Here's the other one. Saving Brother Ryan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R60Wd-K0Nc&feature=youtu.be
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Deborah Francis-White Rolls the Dice Series 1 - Episode 2 Offline
by RodrigoGuerreiro inhi the excellent episode about the jws just stopped to be available at bbc i-player.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07zhwl7/episodes/guide.
anyone have an alternative link for that particular episode?.
edit: *deborah frances-white.
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pale.emperor
Worry not. I've recorded them and will upload them on my YouTube channel later today. I'll post a link here later.
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I’m feeling a bit down and troubled
by Tallon inwhat is getting me down are the difficult and troubling experiences posted by some of the forum users.
in a number of cases i cannot believe the injustice inflicted on the person.
how, forgive the wording, in god’s name can this be happening?
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pale.emperor
I feel that reading such negative things about an organization we were once a part of is actually a good thing. Sometimes we can feel "oh, but what if it IS the truth?!!" and go running back to it. When we read of the terrible things that the org is doing or have done it just proves that this is not God directed.
"I'd rather be hurt by the truth than comforted with a lie" - Khaled Hasseini
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7 Things Most JW's Dont Know They're Supposed To Believe
by pale.emperor ini decided to spend my sunday morning creating a youtube video highlighting 7 things most jw's dont know they're supposed to believe.
most of these i learned only after my exit of the cult.
here's hoping a few jw's will stumble upon it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er44oc0p4ny&feature=youtu.be.
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pale.emperor
I decided to spend my Sunday morning creating a YouTube video highlighting 7 Things Most JW's Dont Know They're Supposed To Believe. Most of these i learned only after my exit of the cult. Here's hoping a few JW's will stumble upon it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er44OC0p4NY&feature=youtu.be
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JW Comedy By An Ex-JW
by Joe Grundy indeborah frances white 30 min radio show 14 oct.. highly recommended.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3.
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pale.emperor
I listened to this last night and shared it in another thread. I laughed out loud more than a few times i can tell you. She describes it very well and you see how bizzare it must sound to someone with no JW knowledge.