And lets not forget, this is only being put out because there was a problem that the "worldly" courts highlighted and made them deal with. The rank and file will think it was the GB's idea.
pale.emperor
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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pale.emperor
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Is it just me or is this weeks CLAM more "cultish" than usual?
by NikL inmaybe it was my mood, but last night the meeting seemed really over the top cultish.. mainly the latter portion that just focused on presentation videos which always seem creepy to me anyway.. then the local needs was pre-empted by a video all about ldc which seemed completely pointless.
(on a side note my wife knew a couple of different people in it).
the congregation "bible" study which dealt with the ever changing cover of the watchtower magazine.
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pale.emperor
When i was in they were just starting to push the video presentations on the door. I never did video presentations myself on the ministry. It was bad enough offering mags that nobody wanted.
As for the songs. I do think some of them are quite catchy, but i hate the stupid reverse word order they use to make things rhyme. Pity they didnt enlist the services of Prince in the bethel writing dept. Could've had some bass and high pitched falsetto.
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Jehovah's Witnesses get support from .... the Catholic Church?
by EdenOne inin this article on newsweek:.
http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-ban-russia-catholic-593082.
catholics are concerned about their religion being discriminated as well in russia.
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pale.emperor
I wonder if the GB will acknowledge the Catholic church's support?
Nah!!
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2017 Regional Convention Outlines
by accesible in2017 regional convention outlines.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0bywm0b0qtwlstw8ws2litmhcrja.
aquí están todos los bosquejos de la asamblea regional 2017 en inglés.
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pale.emperor
Do they only do video dramas now? No more over the top arm waving and miming to American voices?
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Messages From My Uber JW Sister - It's Like Talking To A Brick Wall
by pale.emperor inwhat follows below is a facebook messenger conversation with my sister last night.
i was surprised she messaged me.
i think it's because the cart witnesses i spoke to in my previous post in her kh must have mentioned that they met me.. i screen shot the messages but they've come out all wonky so please bare with me.. notice how she defends the cult even over the blatant wrong doings i refer to.. .
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pale.emperor
Thanks guys.
Scratchme1010 and Awakenednow, you're absolutely right. Our father died about 13 years ago. She clings to the idea of seeing him again in the new system. I understand that and i dont push the issue, i dont want to upset her by saying he's dead and he's not coming back. This is the hold the org has on her. As i said in the texts, if my dad knew what i knew he would have left the org. But then, i dont know if he would have researched as much as i did.
Her husband went through a year of inactivity about 4 years ago. During that time he says he visited apostate sites and came back to "the truth" because "there's nothing out there". I dont know where he went because the two most popular sites (this one and JWFacts) are abound with evidence.
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Messages From My Uber JW Sister - It's Like Talking To A Brick Wall
by pale.emperor inwhat follows below is a facebook messenger conversation with my sister last night.
i was surprised she messaged me.
i think it's because the cart witnesses i spoke to in my previous post in her kh must have mentioned that they met me.. i screen shot the messages but they've come out all wonky so please bare with me.. notice how she defends the cult even over the blatant wrong doings i refer to.. .
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pale.emperor
I know right? You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
i genuinely have no plans of tearing her away from Watchtower if it truely makes her happy. It's frustrating that she doesn't respect MY beliefs (or non belief). And my daughter isn't gonna know her own cousins and aunts/uncles. And for what? Me not believing that a god exists? What kind of witness does that give?
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Messages From My Uber JW Sister - It's Like Talking To A Brick Wall
by pale.emperor inwhat follows below is a facebook messenger conversation with my sister last night.
i was surprised she messaged me.
i think it's because the cart witnesses i spoke to in my previous post in her kh must have mentioned that they met me.. i screen shot the messages but they've come out all wonky so please bare with me.. notice how she defends the cult even over the blatant wrong doings i refer to.. .
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pale.emperor
What follows below is a Facebook Messenger conversation with my sister last night. I was surprised she messaged me. I think it's because the cart witnesses i spoke to in my previous post in her KH must have mentioned that they met me.
I screen shot the messages but they've come out all wonky so please bare with me.
Notice how she defends the cult even over the blatant wrong doings i refer to.
A bit of background: Sarah is a girl that was raised in "the truth", was never baptised and has had multiple affairs from her husband. My sister still considers her one of her best friends because she's known her from childhood.
Andrew was an elder who left the org after researching 1914 and is now a happy member of a Christian denomination. He does lots for charity and even volunteers counseling for suicidal people. (Yet JW's consider him worthy of shunning). His siblings were never baptized and live normal "worldly" lives and are still invited to witness parties and weddings.
My uncle Mark was a JW who successfully faded. They still talk to him but are wary of him.
Charlie and Betty: Charlie was an elder in our old KH who was physically abusing his wife for 20 years. She went to the elders and was accused of being a liar (there were no 2 witnesses). My dad saw him beat her and reported him, Charlie denied it. My dad was counseled and told by two elders that "you'll never go higher than a min servant" (he was a min servant at the time).
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Children in classroom
by ollied28 inhello.
i was wondering if someone could tell me where i might find the example of a young jw standing in front of the class to (boldly) defend creation vs. evolution.. i would like to contrast it with the example from the "bible teach" book about the student challenging the teacher,.
i believe there was an illustration of a young boy standing up in the classroom for his "beliefs".. thanks..
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pale.emperor
The funny thing is, Watchtower are guilty of this themselves.
When a JW questions "new light" or refuse to accept a new teaching they get DF'd.
Much like a teacher dismissing a pupil from class without offering the student the chance to test the idea.
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RUMOUR - Regarding future memorials
by Listener ini heard this on the youtube channel - bad jw round table discussions and i normally don't give much thought to rumours, i did find this one interesting.one of the guys on the channel said that there are plans that 'the other sheep' will be told not to attend any future memorials.he was asked how credible was this and he said that it is talk going around by those in the know, just like there had been those that knew about the fairly recent new edition of the bible being in production.even if this is probably just a rumour, the idea has a lot of merit.
the benefits for the organization outweigh the negatives and would fit in with their current direction.here are some of the benefits, for the org.
that could come from it- the biggest benefit would come from not having to accommodate so many attendants, which are more than double a normal meeting.
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The memorial is a big recruitment drive for them (second only to funerals). There's no way they'd abandon them.
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Another family goes down in flames.
by dogon inmy wife's mother has alzheimer.
it is progressing to the point that she is writing things like she wishes she was dead and does not want to live.
if you know my mil you would know this is not her at all.
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Sad isnt it? Even more when you can see it coming and you try to warn them and they take no notice. You did all you could, but i agree, dont go throwing your money at them.