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  London fire..

  by zeb in

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  i bleed for the poor souls caught in that.

  no sprinkler system in that domestic building..!.

  tragically the govts various of london learned nothing during the world war..

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  Awful. Just awful. They were throwing their children out of the windows in the hope that people would catch them below. Imagine being in that position, that's a last resort that you'd hope you'd never have to take.
  

  One mother fled her apt with her 6 children, and when she got to the bottom there were only 4 with her. I cant imagine the pain and greif these people are going through.

  I was very impressed and proud of the everyday citizens donating food, water and clothes and organizing shelter. A far cry from what i was told "the world" was like.

  From what i understand the heat inside the twin towers reached astronomical levels due to the sheer hight and space for the hot air to move around inside that weakened girders. But, im no structural engineer.
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  My New Fascination - Evolution!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving watchtower i kind of hit the "reset" button in my mind and reevaluated what i thought i knew, what i believe and i require proof for every idea put before me before i commit to it.

  lately i've been fascinated with evolution.

  as a jw i never even looked at the subject, dismissing it as "just a theory".

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  And, of course, they are all extinct - except us - why? Brains or braun? Time or unforeseen occurence.?.or bloody murder?

  I reckon it might have been disease. Or something us humans were able to tolerate that our cousins just wern't. Like if we had no knowledge of fire and we all started eating raw meat. We'd quickly get sick and a lot of us would perish. The meat eating animals however would be fine. Something may have happened the other way round, disease, parasites, change in climate... who knows?
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses denial of what they are supposed to believe from Watchtower

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  one of the most frustrating things.

  when you confront jw's about what they believe they will often deny it.

  such as "if your child is disfellowshipped then you can't have contact with them ever again".

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  My faves include:

  "You can leave whenever you want, you just stop going to meetings."

  "We don't let our children die, we use alternative treatment."

  And they really hate it when you point out that their governing body can dictate to them what to believe st the drop of a hat.
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  WMSCOG - Another cult à la Watchtower

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was reading up on the world mission society church of god, or wmscog for short, a south korean church founded in the early 60s by ahn sahn-hong.

  the church has a million+ members in over 100 countries.

  they believe in god the father (jehovah) and a god the mother, whom they claim to be a living south korean woman named jan gil-ja.

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  Im familiar with these nuts. I've seen some of their propaganda cartoons as well. There's one entitled "Cult Experts Break Up Families" in which they make out that "see, we HAVE to shun you, because you're trying to take me away from this church".
  
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  Restrictions

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what kind of restrictions are people put under when their behaviour has been considered worthy of disfellowshipping but have managed to avoid the big "d"?.

  me (going back a bit):.

  1. never to be in the company of the lady unchaperoned although we were "betrothed".. 2. removed from ministerial servants position.. 3. not allowed to pray in the congregation at all, including book study.. 4. removed as watchtower study conductor.. 5. removed as public speaker and talks at service meetings.. 6. removed as pioneer.. 7. report to po once a month.. amazingly, i missed none of those things and relished the freedom from responsibility.

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  Let's see... I've had:

  Removal from microphone duty - YAY!! I can finally sit down during the meeting.
  

  Removal from sound desk - YAY!! (and nobody else knew how to use it, so that was fun to watch)

  Removal from saying the prayer - YAY!!

  Removal from reading the WT or book study book on the platform - YAY!! I didn't want the job anyway.

  When the gave me my "privileges" back i told them i didn't want them and wouldn't be doing them. I didn't understand it. They told me i should be "reaching out". I told them "i have a 6 month old babe, a wife with severe OCD, a stressful job and im surrounded by brothers who are, apparently, more spiritual than me. So i dont need or want this "privilege" thank you.

  That was satisfying i can tell you.
  
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  BBC Medical soap features JWs and blood.

  by scotsman in

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  2. medical

  tonight's episode of holby city on bbc 1 starts a jw narrative that explores family estrangement and the blood issue.

  the outcome is explored again in a couple of weeks and is pretty favourable to the jws..

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  I always found these programs to be inaccurate. Last time i seen this theme being explored on Casualty and the JW was wearing a headscarf (she died for want of blood) and the husband at the end said the Lords prayer in King James English.

  The reason for refusing blood was "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." - Again, in King James English.
  

  Im all for exposing their dangerous blood doctrine but i want it to be put out there accurately. Because people with JW friends will just say "what a load of nonsense, they dont wear headscarves! This is all rubbish." and switch over.
  
  
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  My New Fascination - Evolution!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving watchtower i kind of hit the "reset" button in my mind and reevaluated what i thought i knew, what i believe and i require proof for every idea put before me before i commit to it.

  lately i've been fascinated with evolution.

  as a jw i never even looked at the subject, dismissing it as "just a theory".

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  Cofty, would you give me your take on these creationist arguments as put forward by bible nut Jack Chick in one of his tracts:

  https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp
  
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  My New Fascination - Evolution!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving watchtower i kind of hit the "reset" button in my mind and reevaluated what i thought i knew, what i believe and i require proof for every idea put before me before i commit to it.

  lately i've been fascinated with evolution.

  as a jw i never even looked at the subject, dismissing it as "just a theory".

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  Since leaving Watchtower I kind of hit the "reset" button in my mind and reevaluated what i thought i knew, what i believe and I require proof for every idea put before me before i commit to it. Lately i've been fascinated with evolution. As a JW i never even looked at the subject, dismissing it as "just a theory". Embarrassingly, i now know that i had no idea what a "theory" was. Im amazed that i ever believed humans were created after all. I mean, the bones that have been found of are not ape (we know what ape bones look like) and not modern human either.

  This is a completely new subject to me and i feel like a kid, reading up on it, watching documentaries, looking at charts.

  One more reason i could never go back to the JWs.
  
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  What strange counsel did YOU GIVE to others?

  by Funchback in

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  2. experiences

  alright.... so in another thread, most of us have been counseled for some lame stuff, and the responses range from funny to shocking.. now, let's focus on you giving counsel to others.

  come on, don't be shy!.

  i'll begin:.

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  I had a long talk with my brother in law who, along with my sister, were very rarely at meetings anymore. I gave an upbuilding little speech about "how much Jesus has done for us, and what does he ask in return? That we learn about him and tell others about him etc etc..." it worked and he started attending meetings again.

  He's now an MS.

  I should've let them go, they were seemed a lot happier and less up their own asses.
  
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  JUNE 2017 Watchtower - Lost a loved one? Go out in service!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apparently going to the kingdom hall and getting out in the door to door ministry is the best way to get over the loss of a loved one.

  who'dve thunk it?.

  stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/80e3cef960fd4eee9fd5cd757c438581.html

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  Apparently going to the Kingdom Hall and getting out in the door to door ministry is the best way to get over the loss of a loved one. Who'dve thunk it?

  Yes, no matter what happens, we must peddle those magazines. And how dare you for not thinking of JW.borg and thinking of your dear old nana instead.