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  What the craziest thing you have heard of someone hauled before a judicial committee for ?

  by Chook in

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  anything that's true

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  In hindsight, I feel bad for the sister though. She needed immediate and intense mental health care, and no one stepped up to help her get that (although at least the elders told her to take her meds, which was surprising).

  I've said for years (even when i was in) this religion attracts mentally ill people. And DFing her is rather strong, that's not what she needed. Mental health care from a professional - yes, cut off from any JW friends/family - no.

  There was a mentally ill old lady in my last hall. She was DF before i even moved there and she used to turn up to the meeting with a child's toy pram with a black bin bag full of "stuff" in it. She's sit in the back room during the meeting and take things out of it and try to give them out as gifts. She's now re-instated, still completely mental but now the congregation cant just pretend she's invisible.
  
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  On the Subject of Demons, I Have a Story to Tell.

  by snugglebunny in

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  i have posted the full story on a fb site.

  so my apologies to anyone who's already read it.

  some of what i've written is what was told to me by my father.

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  I stopped believing in the supernatural after reading Derren Brown's Tricks Of The Mind. There's always an explanation for this sort of thing and people jump to bizarre conclusions like ghosts, demons or boogymen.
  
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  What the craziest thing you have heard of someone hauled before a judicial committee for ?

  by Chook in

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  I do remember a girl i was friends with when we were in our late teens and she had a secret "worldly" boyfriend. She was called into a JC because this boyfriend touched her boobs. Her sister ratted her out and she sat on a JC. She later told me that she was asked by these old men how he touched her boobs. Did he squeeze them? Did he move them around and around? Did he stroke her nipples? Did she enjoy it? How long did he do this for? Was it both boobs at the same time or just the one? What where you wearing? Did he kiss them? What did you think of as he was doing this?

  As you can imagine, she left the Watchtower after this ordeal and said - and i quote - "It felt like a rape. Not what by boyfriend did, but the way the elders leered and questioned and asked for sordid details about it".
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  I Give Up!

  by pale.emperor in

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  im giving up guys.

  i've reached the end of my patience and now i finally refuse to waste any more time on part-time witnesses.

  i've text all of my active jw family members and told them to delete my number from their phone and never contact me again.

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  If he has to have others make up his mind for him then he is a perfect substance to be made a perfect jw. and dropping them its their loss not yours. Hows the hobbies going?

  You're absolutely right Zeb. The thing is, even when i was a JW i was the one that fixes problems. No one's ever there for me when i needed them. I get through things on my own. Yet when stuff happens it's like "oh lets go to Pale.Emperor, he'll know what to do, he'll sort it out" then when they're sorted they leave again.

  I dont need them. It's no big loss to me. Like Luo bou to said:

  I considered my JW family as dead to me you can't relate to the dead so why bother

  This is what i have to do now. As of yesterday coming out of work i decided that. And im a lot less stressed about it. If they wake up they can join here and ask you guys for help i like did, like we all did. Get through it on their own. That's if they ever wake up.

  On a side note. I wonder who my mother will turn to in 20 years when she's 80yo with no pension, no savings, no nest egg - she didnt need it, she joined in 1976, armageddon was right around the corner. Will she turn to my sisters who dont work? How about my brother that rents a three room shack in a rough neighborhood? Oh if only she had another son who had his s^it together and was financially stable?

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  [Hobbies are going great Zeb. Im into photography now. If i wasn't disfellowshipped i certainly would be by now for all the naked women that have posed in my class].
  
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  I Give Up!

  by pale.emperor in

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  im giving up guys.

  i've reached the end of my patience and now i finally refuse to waste any more time on part-time witnesses.

  i've text all of my active jw family members and told them to delete my number from their phone and never contact me again.

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  Wait - is this the brother your posted about the other day? The one who actually broke free and caught a glimpse of true happiness outside the organization? Please tell me I'm reading this post wrong : (. I watched your latest Youtube video a couple of days ago and actually thought to myself, "damn, @pale.emperor's brother is so lucky to have this guy as his family." What I would do to have siblings like you. Mine are all distant, self-righteous, judgmental pricks who haven't spoken to me in years. If only your brother could see a true friend when it hits him in the face. And one who shares his DNA. What a waste of family ties.

  No, it's my other brother. He was having a study then stopped his study for all the right reasons. But one conversation with his JW family and suddenly im a bad influence.
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  I Give Up!

  by pale.emperor in

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  im giving up guys.

  i've reached the end of my patience and now i finally refuse to waste any more time on part-time witnesses.

  i've text all of my active jw family members and told them to delete my number from their phone and never contact me again.

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  Im giving up guys. I've reached the end of my patience and now i finally refuse to waste any more time on part-time witnesses. I've text all of my active JW family members and told them to delete my number from their phone and never contact me again. Unless there is a family emergency then they can tell my ex-wife who will tell me but i still dont imagine wanting to see them again.

  Remember the non JW brother i have that stopped his bible study? My sisters and mother had a little chat with him, next thing he texts me and say "i cant speak to you anymore because of the way to slag off the witnesses". I dont know what he's referring to about "slag off" because whenever i speak with him we dont talk about religion. So i can only assume my active JW family have been filling his mind with propaganda.

  I've done nothing but support him when he complained to me about witnesses pressuring him to attend meetings, when he didnt want to study, when elders wanted to "shepherd him" and i've not once asked him for anything. And now he wants to just drop me?

  Well i wash my hands of him. Of all my JW family and will make no more efforts to help them. Even if they leave or want to leave. They can come on here and ask you guys instead. I wont waste my time or energy.
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  messianic bible

  by zeb in

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  there is an add that appears often here about a 'messianic bible, free reserve yours now.

  ' i contacted them and not wanting anything for free i sent what i thought was a fair price for such a bible.

  no bible they seem to be working on it.

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  I was approached by some Catholics in town only the otherday selling little crosses and blessed virgin necklaces. One of them approached me trying to sell something. I told him "Didnt Jesus turn the money changers out of the temple for this sort of thing?" his reply was something like "the Jews were cheating eachother etc etc." then my reply was "God doesnt need money. If he can provide manna in the wilderness but cant fund your cause then that tells me he doesnt have your backing".

  If God needs to sell his own book then he aint no God.
  
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  What Did You Imagine Jehovah To Look Like?

  by pale.emperor in

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  what did you imagine jehovah to look like?

  i always pictured him like this:.

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  What did you imagine Jehovah to look like? I always pictured him like this:

  

  But now i think he's more like this:

  
  
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  The GB members of the Watchtower Corporation are cunning decisive crooks

  by Finkelstein in

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  i think its now easy see the long standing and continuous operation of the watchtower corporation and its commercialized corruption as a religious publishing house.

  the core centralized intent was to increase the circulation and distribution of the wts's own publications.

  they exploited the basic belief in the bible as holy spiritual writings and used the end is near proclamation all throughout the 20th century and even back toward the end of the 19th century.. these leaders also devised special engaging public talks at assemblies and local kingdom halls which were also devised to support those specific core doctrines of christ's return and a imposing question of who's worthy of being saved or not at the soon to come day of judgment armageddon.

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  I made a video discussing their legitimacy (or lack thereof) a few days ago.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWs6LsBZFOQ
  
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  Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

  by _Morpheus in

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  had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

  i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

  im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

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  Mental isnt it.

  Yes they'll all smile and be overjoyed that Jehovahs "ever moving chariot" has given them such wonderful spiritual food and "where else but gods organization would you see this?"... erm... The God Channel maybe?