so, i've been away from any meetings of the jobos for around 5 years.
i'm glad i'm out but the fallout and loss damn near destroyed me.
but, being a stiff upper lip brit, i 'kbo.
You just try and have a theological discussion with them. They wont. They dont want to talk about the bible, god or religion. They just push their website on you.
I tried here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5734265788563456/cart-witnesses-today-am-impressed
Times have indeed changed. The old timers from when i was a kid would turn in their graves if they could see this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761.
an inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.. it will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.
nhs patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis c and hiv.. families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.. it could be a public hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, prime minister theresa may confirmed.. the prime minister's spokesman said: "it is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.. "it is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry.".
...she even went as far as saying she was going to record it.
...why would she want to record it? Does she get satisfaction from hearing that thousands of people have died from contamination?
very well put together!.
https://youtu.be/yyxg8klhtve.
I'll watch this later.
On a side note, when Stephen Lett went all thin i was hoping he was dying. Unfortunately he seems to have fattened up again. Oh well, there's always next year.
this is my first post and i'm feeling like i'm doing something bad big time!
i know on my mind it isn't, but the feelings are less manageable.. well, since i'm still a jw it's better not to give too much info, but i'm from brazil.. i've grown-up in the religion and practicly all my family, my closest friends and my girlfriend are loyal jws.
i used to be a regular pioneer but i still have a service privilege on my congregation.. i've had questions about the teachings of the wt since i was 10, but naturally i always pushed it away as it were "questioning the holy organization".. i started a friendship with some people in a course i took and we talked about a lot of subjects.
Welcome!
I was struck by what you said about sometimes having to be dishonest when talking to people about the Witness religion. You felt you had to lie a little so that it would be seen in a better light.
I remember doing this myself and I never felt good about it. If most Witnesses are honest with themselves they will admit they are dishonest as well when defending the religion to non-JWs.
Same here. I was a loyal defender of the JWs but I also had to resort to lying to protect the image.
I congratulate you on your honesty and search for truth. If more JWs were like you I'd have a lot more respect for the org.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/cross-dressing-jehovahs-witness-raped-13311020.
a cross-dressing jehovah’s witness raped and molested a girl while making her wear adult women’s clothes.. david fuge, 69, wore dresses and silky underwear when he repeatedly abused his blindfolded victim from the age of eight to 19.. .
liverpool crown court heard he gagged her and on one occasion tied a belt around her neck and left her hanging from a hook in a room.. he photographed the child naked, made her read pornographic magazines, beat her with a piece of wood and abused her at a golf course.. .
List of elders for the Wallasey South congregation.
This offender was not one of them.
Sorry, i should have clarified, i wasnt suggesting this guy is/was an elder.
The couple who moved to that congregation were Dave Guy and his wife. Dave Guy is an elder on that list. This is why i asked my ex about it because she's sort-of friends with Mrs Guy. (You know how elders wives are, gossip queens but also in a clique of fellow elders wives and sycophants). My ex used to be in that clique because her dad is an elder.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761.
an inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.. it will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.
nhs patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis c and hiv.. families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.. it could be a public hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, prime minister theresa may confirmed.. the prime minister's spokesman said: "it is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.. "it is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry.".
That BBC report says the diseases were transmitted when patients accepted the blood clotting fraction "Factor VIII":
BBC: They needed regular treatment with a clotting agent Factor VIII, which is made from donated blood.JW's can't claim they were protected from this danger because it is a blood fraction, not one of the four banned components.
*** w00 6/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
So if a JW tells you they were protected in this case by their blood policy, please tell them they were not.
For example, clotting factor VIII has been given to hemophiliacs, who bleed easily. Or if someone is exposed to certain diseases, doctors might prescribe injections of gamma globulin, extracted from the blood plasma of people who already had immunity.... Should Christians accept these fractions in medical treatment? We cannot say. The Bible does not give details, so a Christian must make his own conscientious decision before God.
Well spotted Splash!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761.
an inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.. it will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.
nhs patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis c and hiv.. families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.. it could be a public hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, prime minister theresa may confirmed.. the prime minister's spokesman said: "it is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.. "it is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry.".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761
An inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.
It will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.
NHS patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis C and HIV.
Families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.
It could be a public Hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, Prime Minister Theresa May confirmed.
The prime minister's spokesman said: "It is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.
"It is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry."
The spokesman said the decision to hold an investigation had been prompted by new evidence.
How long until this is mentioned on the platform? Ah we were right, "scientists" were wrong.
But they wont mention the many lives blood has saved.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/cross-dressing-jehovahs-witness-raped-13311020.
a cross-dressing jehovah’s witness raped and molested a girl while making her wear adult women’s clothes.. david fuge, 69, wore dresses and silky underwear when he repeatedly abused his blindfolded victim from the age of eight to 19.. .
liverpool crown court heard he gagged her and on one occasion tied a belt around her neck and left her hanging from a hook in a room.. he photographed the child naked, made her read pornographic magazines, beat her with a piece of wood and abused her at a golf course.. .
I remember this fella. Never knew him personally but he was in Wallasey South congregation, a couple from
my old hall moved to that congregation and i remember his stupid sad
face. He had bushy eyebrows and when he answered up he practically
barked down the mic. You see the same old faces every year at the convention and thats the kind of face you dont forget.
I always thought he was one of those old school, hardline JWs that never laughs when the speaker makes a joke from the platform. Shush's people who whisper during the talks and taps people on the shoulder if they talk during the song.
I asked my ex about it, she's still sort-of friends with the couple that are in his cong. She said "we're not allowed to talk about it". Whatever that means. I cant imagine who his "supporters" are. Even when i was a JW i'dve happily kicked this man to death for harming a child.
Now remember, if this brave girl leaves the JWs because of this and lives her life free of them she'd be shunned, and if he's "repentant" he wont be.
stumbled across this short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k6-ceajzle.
i encourage you to watch the whole thing, but if you cant, watch from 8:50. it's startlingly similar to the watchtower society..
Stumbled across this short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6-cEAJZlE
I encourage you to watch the whole thing, but if you cant, watch from 8:50. It's startlingly similar to the Watchtower society.
what a journey!.
it was a year ago today that i was announced from the platform by brother paul "twofaced" castley that i was "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses".
i didn't go to that meeting to hear the announcement because i already didn't believe the watchtower religion.. how was my first year?
i got high in AmsterdamI lolled at that, good to taste our cultural richess!
Anyway, I'm glad you still have your litlle princess under your care and have found more peace in your life and had a few opportunities to anti-witness. Thanks for all your contributions to this forum...cheers from the land of the tulips!
Amsterdam is one of my favorite citys. Marijuana aside, i really love the people, those tall houses, the scenery and your transport system which just works. England needs some of that! Oh and Dutch girls . The accent is damn sexy.
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