i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.
i found this on her desk.
this is jehovah's witnesses.
This is so sad. She's so indoctrinated. See what this cult does!!
My heart goes out to you.
Im in a similar situation in that my mother tells people im dead. Her non JW acquaintances literally think i died. That's messed up right? I had to take the action of disowning myself from the family and i've been A LOT happier since doing that because it means i can move on.
Hugs to you xx
have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.
now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.
something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.
Sinboi, can you prove to me that the Satanic Bible is not true?
andrew schofield, a spokesman for jehovah’s witnesses in britain, states: “for almost 60 years, our administrative operations for britain have been located in london.
however, larger facilities became necessary due to the increased demand for bible-related literature and materials.
we began site preparation on the 34-hectare (approx.
Increased demand? Demand from who exactly? Not the public that's for sure. Demand within the org, well, yh because you brought out a new bible so the members obviously want a copy of it.
Demand can (and is) fulfulled via PDF and mobi downloads. So dont tell me you need bigger printing factories. You could shut up Warwick and Walkhill and have a one floor office in Birmingham with 30 staff that produces PDFs all week.
even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.
in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.
but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.
Do you think suggestibility (for hypnosis) correlates with credulity?
Or with the willingness to accept authority?
That's an interesting thought. It will certainly help. There's a sliding scale of suggestibility, there's a test i could do if i were there with you to tell you how suggestible you'd be. But all in all, everyone can be hypnotized. It's just a case of using the right approach. But even then, while under hypnosis you cant force someone to accept a suggestion they'd find abhorrent.
even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.
in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.
but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.
Derren Brown is awesome. I've seen 3 of his shows live and met him in his dressing room through mutual friends. He hypnotizes my daughter every time but even tho I would love him to do it to me it never works. Any idea why?
I use self hypnosis successfully many times tho.
Could be a number of reasons. Paul McKenna told a story how he never managed to hypnotist his mum. Because his mum knew him a Paul McKenna, my son, the one who collects star wars figures and scraped his knee when he was 12 on his new bike. She doesn't see him as "the hypnotist". But another hypnotist would be able to.
In your case, there are different inductions, some work better on certain people but they'd all work. Dont know how much time he spent with you so i cant say. One big thing is the suggestibility test that goes on before they call people up. The ones who are more suggestible get called.
i regular pioneered for 2 years and never have actually converted anyone through the door to door work, in fact, i only knew a few individuals that joined this way.
most were born-in or at least had some type of family influence.
i had several bible studies but they all got cold feet when things got serious and potential baptism was discussed.
My record:
Years baptized: 12 (i was born in though)
Average hours a month door knocking: 4 (yeah i hated it)
Estimated number of doors i must have knocked on: 10,000
Number of return visits: 0
Number of interested ones attending the KH because of my visit: 0
Number converted: 0
Massive waste of time. And that's coming from a ministry-lazy JW.
even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.
in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.
but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.
I would love to know more. But in your opinion, and from any experiences you've heard about, how useful would it be:
a) curing addictions
b) curing, or improving, auto-immune diseases.
Addictions, yes definitely. One of the people i was having lunch with quit smoking because he was given the suggestion that cigarettes taste like dog s**t and the smell of cigarette smoke smells like vomit.
Auto-immune diseases, im not sure. But it wouldn't surprise me. One thing we did learn is that the body responds to stress in some strange ways like skin breakouts, blood pressure and other illnesses. And stress isnt even a physical thing, it's in your head. So if one can deal more effectively with stress they'd be better off.
It's odd the doctors mum left after two years over blood - presumably she knew WTs position when she got baptised. Did she just do more research into the issue, or did he not say?
I didn't press further, maybe someone in the family needed one and she left then. I can understand that. But he, being a Dr, was quite exasperated at the very idea of refusing a proven medical treatment in favor of an ancient book.
even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.
in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.
but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.
Ok i read the first book.... pale, im hooked! Its fascinating!! I just need to work up the nerve to try it
You should. Very first person i tried it on after reading that book it didnt work, BUT after going to the course in London i know WHY... i hadnt done the pre-talk first, nor got the person to close their eyes.
have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.
now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.
something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.
Okay..okay..even if you guys have refuted the Bible and the war of Armagedon, what about man made end of the world? From how I see it, world war 3 may break out soon. A nuclear winter may result. Want me to take baby steps? No way!
Yes sinboi, the world could end at any moment due to some nutter in North Korea or anywhere else for that matter. Which is why we all should enjoy our lives and be true to ourselves. There is no "sin", sinboi. Dont harm anyone and dont be a dick and we'll all get on just fine.;
This obsession with your genitals... go and get laid.
even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.
in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.
but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.
Interesting PE interested to know what's the story with Derrin Brown is he legit?
Programs like that It seem so staged to me and so it's hard to take the subject seriously. But, I know there is more to it than just entertainment, for instance, don't we all go into a mild trance like state just watching TV?
Derren Brown is legit, but remember when the cameras roll you haven't seen the pre-talk before hand (telling someone what hypnosis is and what it isn't etc). Because if i just walk up to a random stranger in the street and do an induction, unless they've been hypnotized by someone before, they wont know how to go into a trance state. Some people go under then come out after like 2 seconds because they wern't aware it's ok to stay in that state (which is why we use deepeners to keep them there).
There's one Derren uses sometimes where he just puts his hand over someones eyes and says "sleep" and they do. I actually done that one on Saturday. It relies on focusing their attention on something (like a handshake or something) and then the surprise of your hand over their eyes confuses them for a split second and it's in that second you need to give the command because in the confusion the subconscious is looking for the conscious mind to tell it "what should i do?!!" and you saying sleep beats it to it.
