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  Yoga for JWs

  by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

  1. watchtower
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  i was chatting with my very jw pioneer mother (aged 65) and out of the blue she tells me she is sore from a particular pose she did in yoga class.

  "wait, what??

  " i say in my mind.

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  When i was in there was a young sister that was into Yoga. Dont think she knew it was forbidden by Watchtower. I never said anything and she never mentioned it elders (why would she?).

  She was hot too.
  
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  Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

  by mrmagic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

  can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

  would hate to lose all those good videos!

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  I cant sit through a single one of their videos. They do seem like really nice people but they also look and sound like exactly the WTs definition of "apostate". I think they come across and bitter and angry.

  Also, i think they're Christians now? <rolls eyes>
  
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  My Mothers Ultimate Rejection

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.

  i found this on her desk.

  this is jehovah's witnesses.

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  This is so sad. She's so indoctrinated. See what this cult does!!

  My heart goes out to you.

  Im in a similar situation in that my mother tells people im dead. Her non JW acquaintances literally think i died. That's messed up right? I had to take the action of disowning myself from the family and i've been A LOT happier since doing that because it means i can move on.

  Hugs to you xx
  
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  Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

  by sinboi in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.

  now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.

  something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.

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  Sinboi, can you prove to me that the Satanic Bible is not true?
  
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  Another lie. This time from the UK Branch

  by alanv in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  andrew schofield, a spokesman for jehovah’s witnesses in britain, states: “for almost 60 years, our administrative operations for britain have been located in london.

  however, larger facilities became necessary due to the increased demand for bible-related literature and materials.

  we began site preparation on the 34-hectare (approx.

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  Increased demand? Demand from who exactly? Not the public that's for sure. Demand within the org, well, yh because you brought out a new bible so the members obviously want a copy of it.

  Demand can (and is) fulfulled via PDF and mobi downloads. So dont tell me you need bigger printing factories. You could shut up Warwick and Walkhill and have a one floor office in Birmingham with 30 staff that produces PDFs all week.
  
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  Pale.Emperor And The Hypnotists

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.

  in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.

  but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.

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  Do you think suggestibility (for hypnosis) correlates with credulity?

  Or with the willingness to accept authority?

  That's an interesting thought. It will certainly help. There's a sliding scale of suggestibility, there's a test i could do if i were there with you to tell you how suggestible you'd be. But all in all, everyone can be hypnotized. It's just a case of using the right approach. But even then, while under hypnosis you cant force someone to accept a suggestion they'd find abhorrent.
  
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  Pale.Emperor And The Hypnotists

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.

  in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.

  but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.

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  Derren Brown is awesome. I've seen 3 of his shows live and met him in his dressing room through mutual friends. He hypnotizes my daughter every time but even tho I would love him to do it to me it never works. Any idea why?

  I use self hypnosis successfully many times tho.

  Could be a number of reasons. Paul McKenna told a story how he never managed to hypnotist his mum. Because his mum knew him a Paul McKenna, my son, the one who collects star wars figures and scraped his knee when he was 12 on his new bike. She doesn't see him as "the hypnotist". But another hypnotist would be able to.

  In your case, there are different inductions, some work better on certain people but they'd all work. Dont know how much time he spent with you so i cant say. One big thing is the suggestibility test that goes on before they call people up. The ones who are more suggestible get called.
  
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  How many do you figure are converted through the door to door ministry?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i regular pioneered for 2 years and never have actually converted anyone through the door to door work, in fact, i only knew a few individuals that joined this way.

  most were born-in or at least had some type of family influence.

  i had several bible studies but they all got cold feet when things got serious and potential baptism was discussed.

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  My record:

  Years baptized: 12 (i was born in though)

  Average hours a month door knocking: 4 (yeah i hated it)

  Estimated number of doors i must have knocked on: 10,000

  Number of return visits: 0

  Number of interested ones attending the KH because of my visit: 0

  Number converted: 0

  Massive waste of time. And that's coming from a ministry-lazy JW.
  
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  Pale.Emperor And The Hypnotists

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.

  in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.

  but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.

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  I would love to know more. But in your opinion, and from any experiences you've heard about, how useful would it be:
  

  a) curing addictions

  b) curing, or improving, auto-immune diseases.

  Addictions, yes definitely. One of the people i was having lunch with quit smoking because he was given the suggestion that cigarettes taste like dog s**t and the smell of cigarette smoke smells like vomit.
  

  Auto-immune diseases, im not sure. But it wouldn't surprise me. One thing we did learn is that the body responds to stress in some strange ways like skin breakouts, blood pressure and other illnesses. And stress isnt even a physical thing, it's in your head. So if one can deal more effectively with stress they'd be better off.
  

  It's odd the doctors mum left after two years over blood - presumably she knew WTs position when she got baptised. Did she just do more research into the issue, or did he not say?

  I didn't press further, maybe someone in the family needed one and she left then. I can understand that. But he, being a Dr, was quite exasperated at the very idea of refusing a proven medical treatment in favor of an ancient book.
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  Pale.Emperor And The Hypnotists

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even as a jw i was fascinated with hypnosis and seeing people like derren brown putting people under almost instantly.

  in the last 2/3 years when i was a jw but beginning to wake up from the bullshit i read up on hypnosis, watched a few youtube demos and explanations etc.

  but never actually studied it seriously until about a year ago.

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  Ok i read the first book.... pale, im hooked! Its fascinating!! I just need to work up the nerve to try it

  You should. Very first person i tried it on after reading that book it didnt work, BUT after going to the course in London i know WHY... i hadnt done the pre-talk first, nor got the person to close their eyes.