Posts by pale.emperor

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"We never solicit donations" - really?

by doubtfull1799 in

inspired by this weeks clam article which again "reminds" the brothers pdf their obligation/privilege to donate "voluntarily" i have complied a list of articles or videos in the last 5 years where donations are indeed solicited or encouraged.

the society may argue that these are not actual solicitations because no plate was passed around.

but a donation box is just a more discrete and subtle version of the plate.

pale.emperor

I'm happy to say that I've never donated a penny to the Watchtower even when i was in. I couldn't afford to! It cost me £80 a month in taxi's to the meetings.

I remember giving a talk about giving to Jehovah. I concluded that one of the most valuable things a person has is time. And brought out that we can donate time to the org in preaching, meeting attendance and study. I didn't mention money because at the time i sincerely believed what out CO had told us, that the org dont worry about money.

I was reprimanded for that by the elders.

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2017-12-4 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN BRITAIN AND IRELAND Re: Changes to Circuits

by wifibandit in

december 4, 2017 to all congregations in britain and ireland re: changes to circuits.

pale.emperor

I think it's more likely that with the merging congregations, there's larger distances between them so they're having to re-jiggle the circuits.

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BOE Letter 4 Dec 2017: Changes To Circuits

by pale.emperor in

not sure if this has been posted already, i didn't see it on here.. looks like a shakeup is coming in britain in regards to the circuits.

apparently the number of circuits has grown and they'd like them all to be about the same size.. i think it's more likely that with the merging congregations, there's larger distances between them so they're having to re-jiggle the circuits.. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ardwrqmxdssvvhzathrjioajgpwwgwlm/view.

pale.emperor

Turns out it's been posted before, sorry.

Original post by wifibandit here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5160219932884992/2017-12-4-all-congregations-britain-ireland-re-changes-circuits

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BOE Letter 4 Dec 2017: Changes To Circuits

by pale.emperor in

not sure if this has been posted already, i didn't see it on here.. looks like a shakeup is coming in britain in regards to the circuits.

apparently the number of circuits has grown and they'd like them all to be about the same size.. i think it's more likely that with the merging congregations, there's larger distances between them so they're having to re-jiggle the circuits.. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ardwrqmxdssvvhzathrjioajgpwwgwlm/view.

pale.emperor

Not sure if this has been posted already, i didn't see it on here.

Looks like a shakeup is coming in Britain in regards to the circuits. Apparently the number of circuits has grown and they'd like them all to be about the same size.

I think it's more likely that with the merging congregations, there's larger distances between them so they're having to re-jiggle the circuits.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ardwRqmXdSSVvhzatHrJioAJgPwwgwLM/view

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Chapter 50 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

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chapter 50. life after death.

since i had been in a religion that was focused on death.

it was now time to focus on life.. the wonderful line from shawshank redemption says it so well.

pale.emperor

Two things...

First did god kill the baby because it got a blood transfusion to drive the point home to the disobedient husband?

Although the doG of the old testament loved killing children (Bathsheba's baby, firstborn Egyptians) i dont think he was responsible for this one.

He told the elders he was wrong and blamed his “worldly wife” for the pressure she had put one him. He begged them for their forgiveness.

I bet they loved that. Although, even if doG does exist, and even if he is anti-blood transfusion, it's not the elders they should be asking for forgiveness.

What a sad story. And unfortunately, not an isolated incident.

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Brain tumor causes woman to become JW (4 times!)

by Anders Andersen in

why one woman mysteriously started hearing 'divine' voices.

after doctors admitted the woman to the psychiatric unit of the hospital, they learned that this wasn't the first time she felt a strong interest in religion and spirituality.

she described four previous times in her life, beginning at age 13 and again at ages 23, 32 and 41, when she experienced periods of intense spiritual and religious devotion.during these periods, which lasted about a year or two, she would join jehovah's witnesses and then later resign, when she lost interest, according to the report.as part of her psychiatric evaluation, the woman also underwent an mri.

pale.emperor

When i studied hypnosis there was a guy there that could make an atheist have a "spiritual experience" simply using suggestion. He de-converted them afterwards, but the lesson was that we cant just trust our emotional highs as a sign of God or whatever.

Some religious people there actually walked out.

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Past child abuse comes to bit me in the butt

by Still Totally ADD in

here i am 63 years old, out of the cult going on 8 years, went through a year of therapy back in 2007, been working very hard to become the person i have always wanted to be.

but what happen to me a few days ago just blew me out of the water for the past two days.

i am now finally coming to grips with my emotions and understanding what caused me such distress.. here's what happen.

pale.emperor

Whenever someone reacts that way with me i just say "f*"k 'em". She has the problem, not you.

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

pale.emperor

The best thing you can say to an elder when they poke their nose in is:

"This is my religion. You're not the FBI or CIA. Go away little man..."

Then enjoy their reaction. Their power instantly removed from them. They do-not-like-it!

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

pale.emperor

oh boy did i!

It didnt help that i was married to an elders daughter to would not only turn me in for silly things but would even turn herself in!

I had elders investigating me for for putting a £5 bet on a football match, owning a little Netherlands flag on my bookcase, collecting bibles, reading the Koran, learning Hebrew, growing what they thought was a marijuana plant (it was a Japanese Mapel, and one of the elders who called was supposed to be a gardener), for low FS, for working with a single sister on the ministry when i had no FS partner... lots more.

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Crazy statements from JWTalk

by Jehovah lol in

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friends

i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.

here is a sampling:.

"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".

pale.emperor

If you're too dense to understand that then perhaps you belong back in the truth.

In the what?