Elders interfering in everything I do and the religion focusing on NOT living in the moment but for some future event that may or not come in my life time and even then I may or may not get there despite trying my best.
pale.emperor
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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Shunning and Changes to the Brain
by Boredposter inall who are shunned know the adverse effects of such.
we feel it.
we know how it has changed us.
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pale.emperor
It's a practice that can (and does) backfire on the shunners bigtime though. The shunners dont see or realize that once it's very clear that they want nothing to do with us, we get on with our lives and create our own families and love them fiercely and unconditionally. Because we know what it's like to be rejected by people who said they love us. So we show it even more to those we love.
That's my take on it anyway.
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W5 Investigation
by Christian Gutierrez inhey guys!
i just want you guys to know that today is a really great day.
there are so many jehovah's witnesses that saw this documentary and were disgusted by watchtowers policy.
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pale.emperor
Just finished watching it now. Really good job by everyone involved. Im so proud of you all.
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Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
by pleaseresearch inwow, now this is interesting.. in another interview with his longtime atheist friend, eugenio scalfari, pope francis claims that hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear.
" this is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the catholic church about the reality of hell and the eternal existence of the soul.. https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell.
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pale.emperor
And the Vatican have already denied it. Their comment is at the bottom.
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Lloyd’s new book
by jwfacts ini see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.
i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.
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pale.emperor
The funny thing about Zeb is, his style of activism is totally not the way i would go about it. But i admire the hell out of him because it takes balls of steel to do what he does. Get up on a platform in a KH and say a prayer? Walk into a meeting and announce the Royal Commission findings? It's shocking, it's provocative and you just know the JWs who are there are shook up a little but will remember it.
So although i would never do what he does, I like him :)
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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?
by pale.emperor inso lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.
but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.
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pale.emperor
The title of this thread is Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?. I wasn't too sure if it was at the time of writing, and after reading the posts and input of you guys I'm still not sure if it is necessary. However, i do agree that anyone (especially ex-JWs) can write a book on JW related themes and I dont think that's a bad thing. I suppose the more books written about the cult the better eh? So there we have it, I asked the question, got the input and feel a bit more enlightened.
The thread seems to have turned onto a Lloyd Evans character. I dont know Lloyd. He hasn't slighted me personally and therefore I have nothing against him. As I've said before I enjoy his videos, i dont watch all of them and tend to skip over some of the rebuttals due to the length of some of them, but at the very least im sure we can agree that Lloyd keeps us informed of Watchtower goings on?
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Lloyd’s new book
by jwfacts ini see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.
i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.
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pale.emperor
Just a thought, Paul, is there a section on your site explaining how to leave the JWs? If not, perhaps there should be. Active JWs do visit your site (i link some of my Quora answers to your page and they come back trying to explain away the evidence you present). Your site is practically the "go-to" place for JWs with doubts.
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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?
by pale.emperor inso lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.
but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.
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pale.emperor
Pale.emperor, I'm puzzled by your OP given a recent thread of yours in which you share with us that you are writing a book to help those who have already left or who are weighing up whether to leave. Lloyd's book is on a not dissimilar theme. In that earlier thread of yours, I commented that there are a lot of ex-JW self-help books already but you responded that yours would be different. What happened that you now say that most of what could be written on the topic could be put on a single sheet of paper?
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5994569121398784/im-writing-ex-jw-self-help-book
I'm not begrudging him writing a book on how to leave (or any book(s) for that matter), I'm just thinking what can be in it to warrant an entire book?
The one I'm working on isn't on how to leave. It's what to expect when one does leave and the coping mechanisms around it. If that can be produced on a leaflet then I guess I'll be writing a leaflet, but I dont think it can.
Plus mine will be free.
But, again, I feel I need to add that I dont dislike Lloyd, and I do enjoy his videos. I wasn't intending to turn this thread into a Lloyd Evans: Do we like him? thread.
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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?
by pale.emperor inso lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.
but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.
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Londo111 totally detest some of the made up allegations his opponents have brought up with zero evidence...
Yes that really was beyond disgusting and I don't mind saying I now have zero respect for Kim Brookes and some of The " Vast Apostate Army" crew who were the instigators of those obscene allegations.I dont dislike him. I dont know him as a person so i have nothing to say on that regard. He does seem to have a lot of contacts and access to stuff that we dont.
How can he be making money off his activism? (apart from selling his books). Surely not enough to live on?
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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?
by pale.emperor inso lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.
but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.
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OneEyedJoe
So don't buy it.
Alternatively: This thread - is it really necessary?
Likely not. But i do enjoy a discussion.