Posts by pale.emperor

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Remark at memorial about growing annointed numbers

by Gorbatchov in

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don’t know if it was part of the script.. at the memorial the remark about growing annointed numbers including this numbers from 2015 to 2017 was made (from 13.000 to 18.000+).. reason for the growing numbers could be:.

- feeling annointed because of former believe.

- psychical reasons.

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"Memorial partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors — including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance — might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling. We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know." Watchtower 2011 Aug 15 p.22

Well i think they're right, there's definitely 8 men in Warwick that are mental or emotionally imbalanced.

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My JW niece is getting married ... typical JW drama

by wannabefree in

we received an invitation in the mail yesterday for my jw niece's wedding.. i am posting this just to add for any lurkers to see typical jw practices.. 1st - and perfectly understandable for anybody who is or was a jw.

i'm not invited.

:) hey, i'm really not complaining about that.

pale.emperor

F**k me, you and your daughter must really love them. I would be livid. What a horrible, micro-managing cult. It's not even at a KH and the elders still have to take full control. Where's the love of neighbor here?

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Time Gained by Leaving JW World

by Farmer Jim1 in

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does anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the jws?.

just today, a sunday, i would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my wt to make it look like i had made a deep study of it.

packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the kh, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a wt study to which i usually had more questions than answers.

pale.emperor

Yep! The time I gained back i spent learning new things. Lie ins on the weekend never get old

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boyfriend ex jehovah witness please help

by whatisthis12 in

so i posted yesterday.

my boyfriend and i have been living together for a year, and he went to the memorial tonight (sorry if that’s not what it’s called).

i told him i was upset he didn’t invite me but wasn’t going to tell him not to go because he hasn’t talked to his family for over a year.

pale.emperor

.i’m sorry i know you are all going through a lot today because of this celebration but i don’t know anyone else to ask

No need to apologise, were not going through a lot, we actually enjoy talking about it with each other now that we're out of it.

As a previous poster has said, you were excluded because he doesn't want to have to bring you up. Also, he'd likely be embarrassed you being around because JW family's look down on non JWs. Sometimes in a married couple one will join the religion and JWs won't look at the non-JW with the same respect. The non-JW is only viewed as a potential convert at best.

If he's acting this way now it's a very bad sign. He's obviously still got some remnants of the cult brainwashing going on in his mind. His family will be using passive aggression to lure back to the cult and, as a result, away from you.

In situations like this their literature portrays YOU as the problem and him as the "good JW returning to "the truth".

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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

by Wasanelder Once in

roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

in one sentence tell why you left the org.

not 2 sentences.

pale.emperor

Elders interfering in everything I do and the religion focusing on NOT living in the moment but for some future event that may or not come in my life time and even then I may or may not get there despite trying my best.

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Shunning and Changes to the Brain

by Boredposter in

all who are shunned know the adverse effects of such.

we feel it.

we know how it has changed us.

pale.emperor

It's a practice that can (and does) backfire on the shunners bigtime though. The shunners dont see or realize that once it's very clear that they want nothing to do with us, we get on with our lives and create our own families and love them fiercely and unconditionally. Because we know what it's like to be rejected by people who said they love us. So we show it even more to those we love.

That's my take on it anyway.

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W5 Investigation

by Christian Gutierrez in

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hey guys!

i just want you guys to know that today is a really great day.

there are so many jehovah's witnesses that saw this documentary and were disgusted by watchtowers policy.

pale.emperor

Just finished watching it now. Really good job by everyone involved. Im so proud of you all.

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Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'

by pleaseresearch in

wow, now this is interesting.. in another interview with his longtime atheist friend, eugenio scalfari, pope francis claims that hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear.

" this is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the catholic church about the reality of hell and the eternal existence of the soul.. https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell.

pale.emperor

And the Vatican have already denied it. Their comment is at the bottom.

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Lloyd’s new book

by jwfacts in

i see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.

i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.

pale.emperor

The funny thing about Zeb is, his style of activism is totally not the way i would go about it. But i admire the hell out of him because it takes balls of steel to do what he does. Get up on a platform in a KH and say a prayer? Walk into a meeting and announce the Royal Commission findings? It's shocking, it's provocative and you just know the JWs who are there are shook up a little but will remember it.

So although i would never do what he does, I like him :)

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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?

by pale.emperor in

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so lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.

but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.

pale.emperor

The title of this thread is Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?. I wasn't too sure if it was at the time of writing, and after reading the posts and input of you guys I'm still not sure if it is necessary. However, i do agree that anyone (especially ex-JWs) can write a book on JW related themes and I dont think that's a bad thing. I suppose the more books written about the cult the better eh? So there we have it, I asked the question, got the input and feel a bit more enlightened.

The thread seems to have turned onto a Lloyd Evans character. I dont know Lloyd. He hasn't slighted me personally and therefore I have nothing against him. As I've said before I enjoy his videos, i dont watch all of them and tend to skip over some of the rebuttals due to the length of some of them, but at the very least im sure we can agree that Lloyd keeps us informed of Watchtower goings on?