This is the best imperfect organization.
We've never made false predictions, we've just erred in our understanding of predictions.
i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
This is the best imperfect organization.
We've never made false predictions, we've just erred in our understanding of predictions.
i know this thread has probably been covered in the past but i thought it would be nice for newbies and lurkers and just a reminder to those that left a while ago.. how has your life improved since leaving the cult?
are you happy?
have you made some amazing friends or maybe met an amazing partner in the world?.
I've discovered the real me. I do what i want to do based on concern for others, respect for others and dont judge other people for doing what they want to do (as long as they're not harming anybody).
I have a mixed bag of friends with different options and yet... we all get on perfectly well.
I've met some great people and had some book worthy life experiences in just two years which i would never have had while still a JW.
My life is less complicated, less stressful and i can honestly say that im happy.
don’t know if it was part of the script.. at the memorial the remark about growing annointed numbers including this numbers from 2015 to 2017 was made (from 13.000 to 18.000+).. reason for the growing numbers could be:.
- feeling annointed because of former believe.
- psychical reasons.
"Memorial partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors — including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance — might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling. We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know." Watchtower 2011 Aug 15 p.22
Well i think they're right, there's definitely 8 men in Warwick that are mental or emotionally imbalanced.
we received an invitation in the mail yesterday for my jw niece's wedding.. i am posting this just to add for any lurkers to see typical jw practices.. 1st - and perfectly understandable for anybody who is or was a jw.
i'm not invited.
:) hey, i'm really not complaining about that.
F**k me, you and your daughter must really love them. I would be livid. What a horrible, micro-managing cult. It's not even at a KH and the elders still have to take full control. Where's the love of neighbor here?
does anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the jws?.
just today, a sunday, i would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my wt to make it look like i had made a deep study of it.
packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the kh, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a wt study to which i usually had more questions than answers.
Yep! The time I gained back i spent learning new things. Lie ins on the weekend never get old
so i posted yesterday.
my boyfriend and i have been living together for a year, and he went to the memorial tonight (sorry if that’s not what it’s called).
i told him i was upset he didn’t invite me but wasn’t going to tell him not to go because he hasn’t talked to his family for over a year.
.i’m sorry i know you are all going through a lot today because of this celebration but i don’t know anyone else to ask
No need to apologise, were not going through a lot, we actually enjoy talking about it with each other now that we're out of it.
As a previous poster has said, you were excluded because he doesn't want to have to bring you up. Also, he'd likely be embarrassed you being around because JW family's look down on non JWs. Sometimes in a married couple one will join the religion and JWs won't look at the non-JW with the same respect. The non-JW is only viewed as a potential convert at best.
If he's acting this way now it's a very bad sign. He's obviously still got some remnants of the cult brainwashing going on in his mind. His family will be using passive aggression to lure back to the cult and, as a result, away from you.
In situations like this their literature portrays YOU as the problem and him as the "good JW returning to "the truth".
roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
Elders interfering in everything I do and the religion focusing on NOT living in the moment but for some future event that may or not come in my life time and even then I may or may not get there despite trying my best.
all who are shunned know the adverse effects of such.
we feel it.
we know how it has changed us.
It's a practice that can (and does) backfire on the shunners bigtime though. The shunners dont see or realize that once it's very clear that they want nothing to do with us, we get on with our lives and create our own families and love them fiercely and unconditionally. Because we know what it's like to be rejected by people who said they love us. So we show it even more to those we love.
That's my take on it anyway.
hey guys!
i just want you guys to know that today is a really great day.
there are so many jehovah's witnesses that saw this documentary and were disgusted by watchtowers policy.
Just finished watching it now. Really good job by everyone involved. Im so proud of you all.
wow, now this is interesting.. in another interview with his longtime atheist friend, eugenio scalfari, pope francis claims that hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear.
" this is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the catholic church about the reality of hell and the eternal existence of the soul.. https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell.
And the Vatican have already denied it. Their comment is at the bottom.