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Endure or Enjoy??
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
have we ever noticed how witnesses are constantly being told that life is something that needs to be "endured", rather that "enjoyed"?.

life is always so tough, so hard, so difficult in "these last days".

"persecution and trials abound".
pale.emperor

How many times have we heard that "we're looking forward to when we can enjoy the real life!" ?
It's a shame. Since leaving i've lived so much more in just 2 years than i ever did in 31 years!
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My old congregation Auckland New Zealand
by karter in
1. jw
2. friends
in 1991 we build a 250 seat hall and had 125 publishers so about 175 in attendance and filing fast.. just spoke to someone from my old congregation they now have 50 to 60 publishers and 100 in attendance on a good day.. very few pioneers.. seems this is happening everywhere.. karter..
pale.emperor

SBF I think if t they reversed the shunning policy and completely dropped the the blood ban it would give a little increase and they'd be back to the norm in a couple of years
I dont see that ever happening. The blood policy sets them out as "unique" and the shunning policy keeps them controlled with fear and guilt.
A cult needs fear and guilt to keep control. Just ask any of the Hateful 8 in In Warwick.
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You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. experiences
you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".

you pretend to knock on the doors.

you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
pale.emperor

When the elders ask "can we come by your place this Sunday after the meeting for a chat?"
And you say no! :)
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Song: The Life Of A Pioneer
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. friends
it struck me today how the lyrics to kingdom song 81 "the life of a pioneer" sound almost like a slave song from a plantation or something.

what's also sad is, if you read, you'll notice that they sound not only like slaves, but slaves that are admittedly tired and worn out yet grateful to serve their governing body overseers master to prove their devotion to him.. very sad indeed..

at the start of the day, with the sun yet to rise,.
pale.emperor

Also, did you notice the lyrics seem to be specifically for cart witnessing?:
We are there with a smile for the people we meet.
Some may stop for a while,
some pass by on the street, but we stay.

No mention of approaching anyone or calling on their homes
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Song: The Life Of A Pioneer
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. friends
it struck me today how the lyrics to kingdom song 81 "the life of a pioneer" sound almost like a slave song from a plantation or something.

what's also sad is, if you read, you'll notice that they sound not only like slaves, but slaves that are admittedly tired and worn out yet grateful to serve their governing body overseers master to prove their devotion to him.. very sad indeed..

at the start of the day, with the sun yet to rise,.
pale.emperor
It struck me today how the lyrics to Kingdom Song 81 "The Life Of A Pioneer" sound almost like a slave song from a plantation or something. What's also sad is, if you read, you'll notice that they sound not only like slaves, but slaves that are admittedly tired and worn out yet grateful to serve their ~~Governing Body overseers~~ master to prove their devotion to him.
Very sad indeed.
1. At the start of the day, with the sun yet to rise,
  
  We are making our way
  
  with the sleep in our eyes, and we pray.
  
  We are there with a smile for the people we meet.
  
  Some may stop for a while,
  
  some pass by on the street, but we stay.
  
  It’s the life that we choose;
  
  For Jehovah we live.
  
  And whatever he asks, we will do.
  
  In the work we endure,
  
  Whether sunshine or rain.
  
  It’s a way we can say ev’ry day: “I love you.”
2. At the end of the day, with the sun sinking low,
  
  Feeling happy and tired,
  
  in our heart there’s a glow, and we pray.
  
  It’s a life that we love, always giving our best.
  
  And Jehovah we thank,
  
  for by him we are blessed ev’ry day.
  
  For Jehovah we live.
  
  And whatever he asks, we will do.
  
  In the work we endure,
  
  Whether sunshine or rain.
  
  It’s a way we can say ev’ry day: “I love you.”
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You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. experiences
you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".

you pretend to knock on the doors.

you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
pale.emperor
- When you see and hear Stephen Lett and start to think Jehovah made a mistake
- When you finally throw away that stockpile of old Watchtowers you couldn't place over the years. Yes, we all had a closet full of mags!
50
You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. experiences
you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".

you pretend to knock on the doors.

you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
pale.emperor

You stop contributing to the "WorldWide Work" first, then stop contributing any money at all.
Im glad that I never contributed a penny in all my time as a JW. It cost me £80 a month in taxis and buses to get there in the first place
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You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. experiences
you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".

you pretend to knock on the doors.

you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
pale.emperor
- You start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for Christians"
- You pretend to knock on the doors
- You explain a JW teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds
- You visit an apostate site and your heart is pounding, then you apologize to god... then go back to it
- You use the KH wifi to visit eBay, Amazon or even this website
- You stop explaining yourself to elders or nosey elders wives
- You buy a birthday gift for one of your friends in secret
- You get angry when someone criticizes the org, then angrier still when you cant defend it.
Any more?
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Do any of the JWs go out door to door with a territory any more?
by Spiral in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i actually had a neighbor ask me that the other day (she knows i'm an "ex" jw) and i didn't really know the answer.

i know there's a bit of cart witnessing going on (small town) and a lot of driving around to return visits.. but are they actually doing territory, not-at-homes, all of that?

the neighbor said that eight years ago, when she bought her house, the jws were by "all the time".
pale.emperor

I've not had them knock at mine since I left 2 years ago. I've not seen them in passing either. It seems to be all carts.
Had to laugh to myself seeing their new simple magazine offers. It looks like a children's free insert the kind you'd clip from a newspaper and hand to your kid on long journeys.
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Jehovah Misses Me
by Phoebe in
1. jw
2. friends
made the mistake of opening the front door today...i was expecting someone to service our central heating...oh dear, it was a sister instead :(.

she tells me jehovah misses me.

it seems god only sees me if i go to the meetings.
pale.emperor

Jehovah's misses you. You must have one hell of a personality, and a schedule so busy that even the creator of the universe cant get a look in.
I doubt very much he'd miss me. Not after all that black pudding I've been eating.