http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora.
i guess the gb's idea of writing to the russian government last year didn't help?
now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.. i sometimes wonder if the gb knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy..
http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora
I guess the GB's idea of writing to the Russian government last year didn't help? Now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.
I sometimes wonder if the GB knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maenrmttb-u&list=plj1cxa6hnc11blsv8iz9lzlux_zz6onyd&index=109.
go to minute nine for the third clip.
what is up with that hair???
Ah that's nothing, there were a few black sisters in my circuit with hair like that. It's not like its dyed completely pink like some "young ones" do nowadays.
This guy knows his stuff, but unfortunately he ruins it by going over the top on the offensive.
many have said that jesus never shunned anyone.
yet it seems that the apostle paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1co 5:9-12. it seems like shunning is what paul wanted us to do.
but honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.
Vanderhoven7 has nailed it here.
And also dpq407 is spot on. Paul claimed to have been chosen by Jesus as an apostle. But many things he teaches are so unlike the character Jesus. Also, the letters he written to the congregations, were they shared among all the congregations or just for that one? Was he giving council to specific congregations or what?
At the end of the day, a Christian is to be a follower of Jesus, not Paul.
we’ve all heard them all our life.
my two biggest stupidest ones i think are, “ we can really tell the end is almost here with the way people drive on the highway.” and a girl who said she wants to hurry up and marry her boyfriend because she’s scared if the end comes before their married, she’ll have to wait 1000 years to marry him.
oh and also a poor old lady saying that she hopes jehovah wipes away the memory of her disfellowshipped sons that he will have to destroy.
That we can live forever on earth in perfection That elders will be princes on Earth. Old people will become young again. Dead people will be resurrected. There will be no more death, pain, suffering, etc. 144,000 wackos will rule over the paradise earth. We will have time to learn anything we want so we won't be bored. I will be able to have a lion or tiger as a pet. I guess we will only eat fruit, veggies and bread. Everyone will be smiling all of the time and dressed in their culture's clothing.
More specifically, we'll all be wearing 70s slacks walking about with lions.
we’ve all heard them all our life.
my two biggest stupidest ones i think are, “ we can really tell the end is almost here with the way people drive on the highway.” and a girl who said she wants to hurry up and marry her boyfriend because she’s scared if the end comes before their married, she’ll have to wait 1000 years to marry him.
oh and also a poor old lady saying that she hopes jehovah wipes away the memory of her disfellowshipped sons that he will have to destroy.
Here's some:
My favorite one is from one of my ex-gf's dad. He was "anointed"... well, sometimes he was and other times he wasn't so every couple of years he'd stop partaking and other years he would. Anyway, one time when he thought he wasn't anointed and my then-gf asked him why he said "because I've just thought, i'd quite like to ride on an ostrich in the new system".
Last i heard he's anointed again. Apparently, god chose him... of all people... to be up there with him ruling over us.
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
This world has nothing to offer you but to use you and then spit you out...
Yh, coz the WT society has never done that to people has it?
He doesn't favour the intellectual ones who are proud and showy with their academic knowledge.
No, he's much happier looking for stupid people who dont question things.
BUT... if you really want to reply i'd stick to the thing she holds dear. The bible. (Ok, we all know it's really the WT society, but she thinks it's the bible so lets go with that).
Truth_b_known has beaten me to it, the first scripture that comes to mind is:
1 Thess 5:21 comes to mind. However, the NWT has really watered it down with an expected poor translation.
Make sure of all things;+ hold fast to what is fine. (NWT)
But bring out that almost every other bible says:
but test them all; hold on to what is good, (NIV)
The American Standard Version is on JW.borg, so mention that and quote it:
prove all things; hold fast that which is good (ASV)
Id say something like:
Truth has nothing to fear from a lie or falsehood. Jehovah is the God of truth. And as you yourself said, "you owe Jehovah your humility and honesty". Never would I think myself too proud like the religions of Christendom who claim they have the truth and that everyone else is wrong. Rather, I show humility and keep testing like Jehovah tells us to. The bible is Gods word, and God is honest. Human understanding can be in error, and that's what I'm guarding against. Man-made doctrines over Gods word. I choose to live by Gods word.
... you are told to trust the slave as you do jehovah and jesus..
You agree to all your details being stored digitally on their computer in headquarters
we’ve all heard them all our life.
my two biggest stupidest ones i think are, “ we can really tell the end is almost here with the way people drive on the highway.” and a girl who said she wants to hurry up and marry her boyfriend because she’s scared if the end comes before their married, she’ll have to wait 1000 years to marry him.
oh and also a poor old lady saying that she hopes jehovah wipes away the memory of her disfellowshipped sons that he will have to destroy.
When the American election was about to start, my brother in law told me this is it, Donald Trump is going to bring Armageddon. How many presidents have we heard that about now?
Everybody seemed adamant that they were going to hang out with Moses or Noah in the new system. Seriously? It'd be like looking for a needle in a haystack. And what made them think Moses or Noah would want to know them anyway?
i know we often talk of the mind control and how jw's believe what they are taught because they are controlled as to the information they receive, but i think the mind control goes frighteningly beyond simply keeping information away from them.. the jw mind is in lockdown.
it simply cannot accept facts, evidence, reasoning or whatever that goes against what they believe.
they cannot assimilate and consider an argument, it is not that they are being awkward, or willfully blind, their minds are so shut down they are incapable of taking in what is being presented.. i am aware of how, in common with other cults and high control groups the j.w org achieves this state among its members, but how on earth do we open such a solidly closed mind ?.
I think the best thing is to ask them questions, and keep asking questions. And then keep asking more questions - as if you're genuinely interested. Because there's parts of the beliefs that they dont like to acknowledge or focus on, so if you gradually get them to focus on one of the more bizzare doctrines and keep asking and stick to the point it'll force them to keep thinking about it even when you've walked away.
On an ex-cult forum there was a post by a former Hari Krishna member who noted that if anyone criticized the movement it actually drew people closer to the group. Even those who were on the fringes almost out, criticism from an ex-member or an critic would launch them back in to defend their organization.
"...only my partner who I live with knew about the krishnas, and he wasn't pleased but was nervous to say anything in case that drove me further towards them, and looking back, I suppose he was probably right." https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?5,115645
I've seen this happen in the JW world too. People who i considered PIMO jumped right back into the org when an angry "apostate" criticized the Watchtower society.
So I intend to ask lots of questions and do it in a really nice and interested manner.
i was informed by my jw father tonight that the reason i don't go to meetings is because "of a guilty conscious".
i just done an eye roll and walked away.
i just can't make this stuff up..
Guilty conscience. Ah yes, that'll be it. It couldn't possibly be because the religion isn't true!
Remember when we were told that people stop attending and become inactive because of some secret sin?
