my wife's parents are in very bad shape.
they are both 2nd gen jws.
my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.
What a mess. Sorry to hear about their situation, you did try to warn them. I can sympathise with them because when I was in and a 100% believer i actually wished i could stop paying into a workplace pension scheme. Regarding it as "a waste of money because i'll never get old".
How silly of me.
The GB live on a blank cheque. They may as well be millionaires. Food, admiration, respect... not to mention gifts they receive from their "fans".
this is my first post.
i'm still a jw but am inactive.
im struggling with the fact that i agree with some of the doctrines (i,e, the stance on the trinity, there is no hell) but i disagree with a lot of things (i,e, men can't have beards, women have to wear skirts).
Hello and welcome Dval!
I was in your place exactly myself a few years ago. For a long time I went along with the religion but had my own personal interpretation of some scriptures while I still believed other JW things. It's actually ok to do that as long as you don't go spreading "your ideas" around the KH.
I found it very beneficial to take a break from meetings and ministry and JW. org and allow myself the time read the bible on my own without literature. Start with the New Testament. Anything you don't understand, highlight it and when you get to the end of the chapter research it from MULTIPLE sources (that bit is important). Biblehub is good and if you google "bible research" lots of great websites are available.
Your beliefs should be based on what YOU understand from YOUR studies. Not something someone else has told you to believe.
A persons religion is a very personal thing. It's supposed to be uplifting, refreshing and exciting. I didn't experience that as a JW and many still don't.
Enjoy your studies. JWFacts.com is THE BEST place to start. It's all Watchtower literature so can't be considered apostasy.
well, i offered in one of his threads to have him on the show and posters seemed excited at the possibility and we got it done so now you can hear from the man himself on the newest episode of "shunned".
one of our very own stepped up to tell his story, well, aside from myself of course.
it was great getting to actually speak with him.. this is my first international interview for the podcast.
Pale, do you happen to have any of your stand-ups recorded? I too am a fan of the dry humor lol
No. But i intend to record the next ones i do (if i do any more that is). The first few i did i didnt tell anyone i was going to do it because it'd just make me more nervous them turning up.
okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.
they reduced printing of mags.
they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.
Prosperity gospel conman Creflo Dollar does a clever thing... he sell his shitty self-help CDs and DVDs for a "love gift" of like $30.
https://www.creflodollarministries.org/Love-Gift
For the Bethel spies who monitor apostate sites, here's what you say:
"God's organization has been faithfully providing "manna in the wilderness" via our magazines and publications. The Israelites loyally donated their gold earrings and silver trinkets to be melted down for use in the tabernacle. We too should be glad to honor Jehovah with our valuable things. Jehovah would be pleased to accept your love gift of £49.99 a month (dont forget to tick the gift aid box). Doesn't this show our love to Jehovah's organization? How else can we donate to Gods organization? Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and lovingly donating these things for use by Jehovah's servants. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end."
this is my first post.
i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.
no friends, me at work.
Listening to the pod cast now. As there are no dates visible on the forum anymore in Internet Explorer, what happened to the wife and is now "girlfriend" on the podcast? Sorry for the sit-com and popcorn question.
haha
She's since left the cult, and is seeing someone more suited to her. Things are amicable as far as our child is concerned so i wish her all the best.
is there a new blood form to fill out?
maybe it's been mentioned here and i've missed it but when they were chasing me with the gdpr, they also mentioned they wanted to me to fill out a new blood directive.
not that they'll be chasing me for much longer ;).
I'd love to see a copy of the new form. I doubt we'd find it legitimately online from JW.borg. Can any awake member scan it and share it?
after a bit of a kerfuffle over a procedural matter, my university has awarded me a degree.
(the procedural problem was caused by my independent selection of what i wanted to study).
award : bachelor of arts.
Well done fulltimestudent. All your hard work paid off.
has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?
it's like a formula.
intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).
In hypnosis we call this a "yes set". You get someone to agree with something minor, then get them to agree with another minor or ambiguous thing then they're more than likely to agree with the third because the brain likes consistency.
The WT are introducing a basic bible idea (yes), then another (yes) than a cult message (yes).
well, i offered in one of his threads to have him on the show and posters seemed excited at the possibility and we got it done so now you can hear from the man himself on the newest episode of "shunned".
one of our very own stepped up to tell his story, well, aside from myself of course.
it was great getting to actually speak with him.. this is my first international interview for the podcast.
For those of you that listened and liked it, thank you. And thanks mike for interviewing me. It was kind of thereputic actually, and nice to not have to explain the JW terminology and loaded language as we all understand it already.
I notice that I tend to go off topic a few times (sorry!). My brain must have been in overdrive that day.
geoff jackson speaking at a france dedication:.
then he said (i'm quoting him best i can remember, but you'll get the idea): "imagine if next week i go back to us and you see in the news that the whole gb was arrested for no reason.
how'd you react?
Please, please, please let it be Tony Morris that gets arrested first. Let's see if his "big brother" does anything about it.
Seeing the Watchtower cult get gutted and flushed down the toilet would be a highlight of my life - but seeing that asshole get whats coming to him would be awesome.
