Can someone please tell me the end result ?
He became a firefighter, met Michael Jackson, then quit his job to serve the borg even more. Got appointed as an elder and he's still in.
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JW Nut Telling His Story Online
by pale.emperor inwhile searching for some jw related stuff online, i stumbled across this page created by a pimi.
his name is steve mcdowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.
however, this version, he says, is the full version.
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pale.emperor
In all seriousness WT decided to cancel all non essentials. Common, you think the GB think kids are important? They can't donate as much as adults and their hands are too small to pull the witnessing cart.
Plus, Tony Morris needs another gold watch - essential Watchtower funds.
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JW Nut Telling His Story Online
by pale.emperor inwhile searching for some jw related stuff online, i stumbled across this page created by a pimi.
his name is steve mcdowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.
however, this version, he says, is the full version.
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pale.emperor
Reading the WT version and his full version you can see how the editors have reworded his story and left out massive gaps such as him beating up the cat radio theif while out on the ministry.
Makes me rethink all those "encouraging" accounts I used to read in the yearbooks and WT mags when I was PIMI.
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JW Nut Telling His Story Online
by pale.emperor inwhile searching for some jw related stuff online, i stumbled across this page created by a pimi.
his name is steve mcdowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.
however, this version, he says, is the full version.
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pale.emperor
While searching for some JW related stuff online, I stumbled across this page created by a PIMI. His name is Steve McDowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the Watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.
However, THIS version, he says, is the full version.
I wonder what the Watchtower editors thought when they read the full unabridged thing? I'm surprised they still ran it considering some of the stuff he claims:
Sadly though I wanted to keep smoking “Weed” (marijuana). I actually prayed to God to forgive me, even doing so out loud. After reading the account of Moses at the Burning Bush, I asked God for a sign to forgive me for smoking weed which I thought was my only sin left (Ex.3:3, 4). One night while my fleshly brothers and others were in our converted den garage getting high and then I wanted to join them. I first stood outside in the driveway praying for forgiveness and then before I went in, a crack appeared in the ground, what I imagined to be the bright colorful image of Jesus appeared, then I dropped to my knees and it told me I was forgiven, then it put a sparkling, shimmering necklace over my neck, then smiled and then he and the necklace broke up and disappeared. I ran into where my brothers were and told them. “Hey, I spoke to God”. They informed me that they too had heard our voices. When I told the Witnesses of my experience, they explained and helped me to see the connection between drugs and spiritism and the Demons trying to fool me (Rev. 20:8). After a couple of more experiences with the demons holding me down in my bed, by applying Bible counsel I broke free, recognizing that you can’t partake of Jehovah’s table and the table of the demons.
Yeah, the effects of drug use and sleep paralysis are a bugger.
“I dedicated my life to Jehovah and was baptized January 5th, 1974 at the Los Angeles Leimert Assembly Hall” and my entire unbelieving Family attended even my opposing violent Mother. In those days many of us thought the end of the world was right on us. I decided to become a Pioneer Minister from then until the end. I worked a rotating shift job that caused me to miss some meetings and it bothered my conscience. I had $5,000.00 saved up to buy with cash, my new car (costume Black Pontiac Firebird) after my $500.00 down payment to special order it. I decided to lose, forfeit the down payment, not buy the car, and to use that money to be a Regular Pioneer Minister until Armageddon (Mark 13:10; Ps. 89:1). I could budget well and my furnished apartment was just $125.00 monthly and I didn’t eat much. I figured my $$$ could last until 1975, the calculated end of man’s 6000 years of existence. So I quit a great job at B.F. Goodrich Chemical Co, started 75 hour Auxiliary Pioneering, and by the Fall I was a 100 hour Regular Pioneer Minister.
This poopoo's the recent Watchtower propaganda video that "some" were looking to a "certain date" doesn't it?
Most memorable was on Wednesday nights when Fred Franz, Bro. Karl Klein, George Ganges and other G. B. Members would sit in the hot rock Bethel Sauna surrounded by us young Bethelites rotating in and out of the heat to get counsel, hear stories, experiences, and get our curious questions answered by these spiritual giants, heavy weights.
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In those days we would say “I’m in the Triple A Club = Available After Armageddon”
Yeah, it's a good thing you eventually realized 1975 was "you" being "overeager" and eventually married anyway right?
While at this same Fire Station, I was also with the Paramedic Team that rescued and attended the entertainer Michael Jackson when his hair caught fire filming a PEPSI Commercial. He was still in the Truth then and was encouraged by my words and presence there, knowing I was also his spiritual Brother.
Except he wasnt... MJ was never baptized.
Even a young Stephen Lett pops up!
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new JW Online Bible Study Lessons
by neat blue dog inhas anybody seen the new online bible study yet, just posted yesterday i believe?
it's the first thing you see now when going to the home page.
the online bible study lessons on jw.org are free, have no obligation, and are easy to use.
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I get it. They can soon boast from their convention platform that X amount of "bible studies" were conducted last year. And also it being an online course there's no way for the student to ask their questions, reason with scripture or bring up things they found online.
Very sneaky Watchtower.
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Governing Body trying to control marital relationships
by Whynot in4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform.
i say it's innapropriate because i think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to tell them they should love their children less.. he said: "mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?
" i think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more.
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pale.emperor
The GB dont live in the real world. Not only are they narcissists, they're likely also mentally ill - what they say and their opinions do not matter.
I sincerely hope that anyone im married to loves our kids more than me. You can fall out of love with a spouse/partner but our love for our kids is eternal, unconditional and undying.
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Why the term "waking up?"
by Sour Grapes inis the term "waking up" the best way to describe when a jdub starts to have doubts?
to me, it is rather that a jdub realizes that what they have believed for years was a pack of lies and then they have to make a conscious decision if they want to continue to believe in lies or stop being a jdub or just go along for the ride.. it just amazes me how many die-hard jdubs there are despite every failed prophecy about the end coming, the borg being a part of the dreaded wild best united nations, the put down of women in the borg, the massive cover-up of the child abuse in the borg, the willingness to let a child die because they need blood, and the eagerness to shun a child who at the age of 10 got dunked to make mommy and daddy happy only to not want to be a jdub later and have the parents treat them like they are dead because 8 overweight, balding, goofy looking, incoherent men in upper state new york say that are the rules for being a christain.. jehovah's witnesses are a very sad cult that attracts people with emotional, psychological, or medical issues, have very large egos, can't make simple decisions, and believe in the tooth fairy..
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I awoke gradually. At first i believed the religion is true but not all of the doctrines are. I believed that for about a year then i believed that the GB should not be taken as gospel, and to take what they say with a pinch of salt. I wonder how many JDubs are going through those same stages? Because what came next after seeing the UN letter was a spiral that lead me to research outside sources, I was so angry at being lied to. What else where they not telling us? The rabbit hole is deep.
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A question regarding RC/DC changes
by no-zombie inwith the rumored changes or deletion of the regional/district conventions ... does anyone know if the organization will cancel them all together or just reduce their duration from 3 to 2 days, so they can be slotted into local assembly halls easier?.
no-zombie.
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pale.emperor
Cancel the biggest moneymaker the society has? No!!
The "deficit" scam has been working for decades, as any unscrupulous businessman would tell you - follow the money. And they will.
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Bible comes alive if we look for meaning behind the symbols it uses
by Ireneus inbible contains too much human thinking presented as though from god, thus much of its information brings dishonor to god.. yet it contains great beneficial truths behind the symbols it uses.
let us take the only two cases of miracles jesus performed without any request from anybody which would show the very purpose of his ministry:.
1) jesus healed a woman who “was bent over and could not straighten up at all.” (luke 13:11-13).
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Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. - Ephesians 6:5
Slavery was still ok with god even in the New Testament.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses selfish??
by stuckinarut2 inis the average jehovah's witness selfish and self-centred?.
i know, i know...many will object and say "no - preaching is the most selfless thing a jw can do.
it saves others lives...".
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Think of it this way... according to Watchtower, Jehovah will make you immortal in a perfect world. All you have to do is be a slave to Watchtower in the here an now. If your child/brother/sister/mum/dad decides to leave or is expelled from the religion then you must shun them or you wont get to be immortal.
If your friend/relative is shunning you, they're essentially saying that they'd happily sacrifice knowing you simply so they can become immortal. Most parents would do anything for their child, JWs on the other hand will give up their own children in order to become immortal. How is this any different from sacrificing your children to a god?
I can remember a handful of genuinely altruistic people in the JW cult when I was in. Hell, one of my favorite people in the cult has been disfellowshipped twice for being too kind to disfellowshipped people. He was genuinely "christlike". He used to still talk to them and run errands for them if they were unable to do something. But 99.999999% have been trained to withhold their kind nature if you were to disagree with Watchtower. They're the exact opposite of the Good Samaritan.
