Posts by pale.emperor

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JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

by pale.emperor in

i asked the question on quora: .

if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

pale.emperor

If anyone has ITV iPlayer there's a great documentary about Charles Manson with recovered lost footage of interviews with his "family" cult.

https://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep1week39/manson-lost-tapes

The stuff they say are eerily similar to indoctrinated JWs.

"I love Charlie. More than I love myself".
"If Charlie told me to kill, sure i'd do it, I wouldn't even have to think about it".
"It doesn't matter that that baby died*. It'll live again somewhere."

*Referring to the Sharon Tate murder where they killed her unborn baby.

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Just a thought

by moley in

just a hypothetical question.

if the society was right and armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.. would rather die at armageddon.

i would.

pale.emperor

IF the society was right and Armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.

If I were given a summons that informed me that I'd be deported to North Korea and that the North Korean regime would last for at least until my death I'd rather shoot myself in the head.

Same goes for the JW version of the "new world".

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BS stories in the publications

by Billzfan23 in

this is an example of a story that just strikes me as funny from their publications:.

"wilson, a christian from ghana, was notified that in a few days, he would be fired from his job.

on his final day at work, he was assigned to wash the private car of the managing director of the company.

pale.emperor

It's a good thing Stephen Lett wasn't there, he would have put it in the contribution box!

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JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

by pale.emperor in

i asked the question on quora: .

if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

Let's be honest, when we were in the majority of us couldn't explain 1914 in our own words. It took a Watchtower magazine and a bible and flipping back and forth between scriptures - try doing that with someone on the door, they'd close the door in your face.

I tried many times to research it and understand it but just gave up in the end. I reasoned that "it must be true otherwise 8 million people wouldn't go along with it".

Well clearly I was wrong because that's precisely whats happening.

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JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

by pale.emperor in

i asked the question on quora: .

if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

pale.emperor

I asked the question on Quora:

If the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?

https://www.quora.com/If-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-Jehovahs-Witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless

Their replies were unanimous. They'd still stay with the org!

I would absolutely NOT abandon my faith. - Ben Gordon Burns

I’ll stick with Jehovah God and whatever organization - Brandon Wilson

There have been many adjustments to our understanding of the scriptures. People have been taught lies for centuries. - Mary Crosby

I would remain with Jehovah’s Witnesses, because I appreciate being in a religion that changes a belief when they realize that it’s wrong. - Sam Thorne

I would stay a Jehovah's witness for as long as it had Jehovah's blessing. - Mick Tunbridge.

It was only Edward Smith who refused to beleive that they'd even do it.

Not going to happen. - Edward Smith

I guess Edward will have a hard time with cognitive dissonance when the time comes.

The cornerstone of the entire belief system was always 1914. Now it seems the emotional attachment is more stronger than pesky facts.

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More Info on the Montana Sex Abuse Decision

by berrygerry in

courtesy of a redditor:.

https://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/montana-jehovah-s-witness-sex-abuse-case-underscores-church-s/article_fddc41e5-536b-5843-af30-200cc14892d8.html.

montana jehovah's witness sex abuse case underscores church's worldwide reckoning.

pale.emperor

It still makes me sick even now when the JW's will call the Catholic church on it's pedophile priests and their policy of covering up and moving them from church to church.

Pot, meet kettle.

Thanks for sharing. This was an informative read.

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Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

.

let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

pale.emperor

I'll never set foot in a Kingdom Hall again.

You can take that to the bank. I dont care if it's a funeral, a wedding, a memorial...

It

will

NEVER

happen.

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question about the go bags.

by goingthruthemotions in

its been a minute since posting, have been trying to put this cult in my review mirror and just live life.

but you know this beast rears it's evil head.

my wife found my crisis of conscience book and out came the horns plus i guess what she is hearing at the meetings isn't helping either.

pale.emperor

I remember back in 2008 when I was dating the woman who I'd later marry. Whenever I'd stay over at her parents house I'd be in the spare room which was literally a stockpile on bags of pasta, rice, tinned food and bottled water.

10 years later, the world is still here and all that food must have gone off by now.

Some entrepreneurial JW nut is even selling go bags to JWs on his website.

https://www.ministrygallery.com/go-bag/#null

I love how, on their offical website, on a list of essential items the bible is even on there... right at the bottom.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2017-october/disaster-steps-that-can-save-lives/

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wt and charitable works.

by zeb in

my wife (uber) mentioned today an elderly man who comes to the kh and he suffers from a sever stomach complaint which needs surgery and that there is a 'waiting list' at the local hospital.. so i says, "why dont the elders put the $$ together to get his op done privately.

" (ie out of the govt system and 'waiting lists').

her answer was telling.

pale.emperor

Back in the late 60s the mags even resorted to slandering the motives and character of any Jehovah’s Witnesses who do give to charity, claiming that they’re trying to cover up a guilty conscience.

"If there is any material giving, to charities for instance, it is because there is need to salve a conscience, or because one's reputation is at stake." - Watchtower 1969 May 1 p.280

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Saw homemade "Cart art" and murmurs about cart working yesterday.To old to do cart work?

by caves in

yesterday i parked at a rest stop for a bit and there were 2 ladys at a cart.

the cart sign was hand painted.

that was odd to me.

pale.emperor

neat blue dog: Some of the new cart art designs are simplistic, blocky renderings of previous artwork, (edited in the computer to look that way) and could be mistaken for crude artwork. Just a guess.
I was wondering if anyone else had noticed paintings were becoming passé. Sometimes old paintings get reused, but comic book style illustrations appear to be "in" right now.

Yh I've noticed that the artwork seems to look like a paint-by-numbers job nowadays.