I read the online chapter posts here. They were great. Where can I get my hands on the book please?
pale.emperor
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To Newboy
by Muddy Waters ini’ve just finished reading your book, couldn’t put it down!
what a great work!
it’s disgusting what the organization does in “god’s name”!!
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How do they decide when to get rid of certain information in their publications?
by Tameria2001 ini was recently watching a video on youtube and on the john cedars channel, he was talking about how the watchtower has discontinued quite a few of their books from back when i was still active.
so it got me to thinking about how do they decide that certain teaching doesn't fit them anymore.
so i was wondering does anyone have any ideas on how they come to that decision because if any of their members bring up something, that person can be disfellowshipped?.
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pale.emperor
I’ve wondered this myself. At what point does everyone know that such and such a book is old light? Is the Revelation book still cannon or is it old light now?
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His Rose colored glasses are back on
by HappyBlessedFree inso my husband who was not attending meetings for the last four months, went to the special talk, the memorial and the meeting today.
he said he feels jehovah’s spirit is back and that they are all being so kind.. i am just sick to my stomach.
he just refuses to see anything as a problem.
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pale.emperor
Yh, my never-baptised older brother ended up going to the memorial too. He told me “everyone was talking to me”. We all know what they’re up to, love bombing to get the “lost sheep” back under control.
And we also all know that it dies down and disappears once someone becomes regular or – heaven forbid – actually joins the cult.
He didn’t have anything to say about the actual talk or ceremony but he did say there were fewer there than last year.
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Was There An Occasion Where An Entire Congregation Broke Away?
by pale.emperor ini remember reading somewhere (perhaps on here?
) than an entire congregation disassociated and started their own congregation after decided that the gb were apostate.. was this an urban myth or is there any evidence of this?.
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pale.emperor
I remember reading somewhere (perhaps on here?) than an entire congregation disassociated and started their own congregation after decided that the GB were apostate.
Was this an urban myth or is there any evidence of this?
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Can This be Verified?
by Atlantis incan this be verified?
just speculation so far, so i was just wondering.. .
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/bawoeu/getting_rid_of_the_literature_counter_all_together/ .
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pale.emperor
It makes sense do to this, but not in a good way. It's just another sign that things are not "progressing at a fast pace" like they claim. A cult that boasts about the two most publishes magazines in the world reduced to an IKEA cabinet of wafer thin propaganda.
So lets recap:
- Reduced pages in the literature
- Reduced number of mags per year
- Encouraged to use digital publications
- Selling KH's and merging congregations
- Encouraged to "Honor J£hovah With Our Valuabl£ Thing$"
Sounds like someone is running out of cash.
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My disturbances about the world...
by nowawake14 ini was at the store and i saw this young black girl.
i swear she had to be 13-14. she was preg!
and huge!
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pale.emperor
You do realize that the biblical Mary was likely 12-14 right? Jehovah didn't have a problem impregnating that so...
But lets talk about morals. The bible is a-ok on slavery, raping women of other nations, genocide and killing babies for the crime of not being Israelite. Is this ok with your morals?
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Going To The Meetings To Give A Witness
by Brokeback Watchtower ine tricki've been tossing around the idea of perhaps going to a meeting in the future just to check things out i'm in no hurry this could happen months or years from now.
i would like to give them a witness about some of the problems i see as a newly interested person checking things out.
maybe just hanging back after coming to the meeting late and casually talking with people as a non pushy interested in what going on after some internet search led me to jw.org.
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pale.emperor
Not that I make a habit of talking to them at the carts, but I found this method seems to get around their apostate radar...
I ask them "So who's Jehovah? Is he, like, your prophet or something?". This makes them think I'm clueless about religion, because any theologian would know the word Jehovah.
Then I tell them that my family are into Scientology and dont talk to me because I'm considered a "suppressive person" and "disconnected" from the religion. You'd be surprised to learn that when I said this in the past the JWs said "that's horrible". I almost broke character.
The only time a conversation got shut down was when the JW swore blind to me that the bible doesn't advocate slavery. Of course, we all know it does. When I pointed to the scriptures he explained it away as "they were treated well, more like servants" (tell that to Hagar).
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Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?
by smiddy3 infor the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .
are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.
here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.
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pale.emperor
Let's be honest, how many of us even understood the 1914 thing when we were in? I couldn't explain it in laymans terms and I believed it at the time.
I think nowadays they believe it because the GB believe it, and they think everybody else does so they go along with it.
It's a case of the emperor's new clothes.
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They Want More Money!
by Atlantis inthose wanting a copy of this file.
https://docdro.id/fllorzffile example:4. circuit overseer assistance arrangement: in harmony with the announcement to the congregation, please arrange for a resolution to be put to the congregation, authorising payment from congregation funds equivalent to £4.50/€5.00 per congregation publisher for the 2019 service year.
if the body of elders believes the suggested amount would impose a hardship on the congregation, the resolved amount can be adjusted accordingly.. .
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pale.emperor
£4.50 per publisher.
Let's say 50 publishers per cong. £4.50 x 50 = £225 per visit.
Tax free mind you.
Bear in mind he has not mortgage and no rent to pay. His lunch and dinner is sorted by the JW wives just gushing to invite him first.
Not a bad gig that. But then, I wouldnt want to be spending all my days knocking on doors for Watchtower. Rather him than me!
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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch
by UnshackleTheChains ini was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).
you can't write this stuff.
right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..
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pale.emperor
I was about to cut him some slack and say "hey, anyone can buy a bottle of scotch" but then he went about bought like 8 fucking bottles!
My next question is, where did the money come from?