Why "Removed" instead of "Disfellowshipped or Shunning"

by blondie in

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friends

i was mulling this over last night...too much free time, i know.

both disfellowshipping and shunning indicate the action of avoiding someone, taking them out of your sphere of associates.

probably is a better sound bite to say "removed.

lastmanstanding

The answer as to why “removed” is used was touched on by others.

The simple answer is “optics”.

The accusation is made, and rightly so, that the Watchtower society punishes those who leave. The truth of the matter we all know. They hold you hostage and seek to absolutely destroy you if you leave.

People who leave talk… and dubs who listen are the next to go! Membership would implode.

Watchtower wants to appear, in the eyes of those with whom they curry favour, as being a ‘kinder and gentler’ group, and this for the sake of getting their hands on money as in Norway.

From the standpoint of outsiders, “removed” just means their names were “removed” from membership roles. Clean and tidy. No witch-hunt. No hostages. Their names were just rubbed out and they are free to go with no punitive action taken against them.

But to insiders, “removed” is the new “disfellowshipped”. If you are “removed” then you are SHUNNED, all dub backs turn to you, nobody can speak to you, you are DEAD.

But what Norway sees…. you just moved on and Watchtower “removed “ you from the JW book.

Please give more money to Watchtower, the kinder, the gentler BORG

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Daniel 2:42 , is it really unstable democratic governments?

by raymond frantz in

in its latest front page article titled “political turmoil that fulfills bible prophecy”, jw.org once again attempts to connect current world events with the vision found in daniel chapter 2, particularly the image composed of various metals.

their interpretation of daniel 2:42 is laid out in the following paragraph: "the feet of the image are made ‘partly of iron and partly of clay,’ a combination that is inherently weak.

(daniel 2:42) today, the power of both the united states and britain is weakened by elements within their own societies.

lastmanstanding

Daniel’s image is a clock.

pete just above honed in on the verse WT never uses.

The clay is the “offspring of mankind”… or as we say today, IMMIGRANTS

Anybody think there might be something different going on in the US and GB?

Maybe “the wall” to keep “the offspring of mankind” OUT?

Nobody has any issue with the flood of low quality immigration taking place?

Hmmm. I got them all over my neighbourhood now, they don’t work, they don’t cover their garbage or take care of their property. Rats run wild. The goovermint gives all our cash to the immigrants who have little or no respect for laws.

And good luck building up your military ranks with these lot.

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/27/trump-iran-bombing-uranium-00429599

Trump says he would bomb Iran again ‘without question’ over uranium enrichment

And how the hell would Trumpy know anything about Iran’s uranium enrichment now, now that the IAEA is out and Iran is on lockdown?Jewish spies? LOLThey are executing people left and right currently. They’re taking national security up a few notches, but hey Jews are welcome to try.
The war ain’t done. It’s barely begun. And don’t you worry, when it fires up I will be rubbing some noses in it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cx23w8exw9xo

Watch: Anger and uncertainty in Iran as crowds mourn dead

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

First off, the UNDPI affiliation was NOT immediately reported by “multiple” sources. Your baloney falls flat.

It was reported on by The Guardian UK and the reporter was Stephen Bates, with whom I had ongoing correspondence. Stephen supplied to me the correspondence that he was having with Watchtower and which correspondence is available for your viewing because I supplied it. (I think JWinformation, there’s a link.)

Secondly, the original letter from Paul Hoeffel at the DPI and bearing his signature is in my possession and I supplied this to Ray Franz for the final edition of CofC

Thirdly, and most importantly, after my visit to the UNDPI, during which meeting I detailed to an officer the poor vetting of bedfellows by the UNDPI, the UNDPI was disbanded. And replaced!

My visit to the UNDPI was on August 3, 2016 years later and my purpose was to gather as much additional information as they could provide, (I wanted to keep the story alive) and also provide them with information about who they’d been in bed with. Philippe Quiepo (not sure of the spelling and I am typing on my phone) was staffer who aided me in my quest and who is a Mormon -no love lost there for WT- showed a WT picture on his phone to the UN officer (Katherine) of the beast of Revelation and that widened her eyes.

And I video recorded as much as I could of my visit to 801 First Ave NYC.

Nuff 4 U..?

But your post was BS

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

Bury the dead and Rearmament …run concurrently.

This is a special time, when the gravity of loss builds on festering anger to produce a new resolve TO GET EVEN.

Or ever better than even.

Just a matter of time, and the next wave, always bigger, descends upon the theatre.

And time for the USA and “the conquest” runs out. The Orange Pharaoh must act!

China is getting involved more deeply. While the US bond market is set to PoP like a birthday ballon.

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

Hahahahaha

Now that post demonstrates your complete ignorance. YES, you are indeed “that naive”.!

It wasn’t that long ago, I was working hard to uncover the Watchtower’s secret affiliation with The United Nations. And plenty of ignorant, uneducated putz came forward to say the same stuff. “Conspiracy nut”…

How many people have expressed that they were helped free of Watchtowerism because of this being uncovered!!! I lost count….

I am the ONLY person who actually went to NYC and met with officers at the UNDPI.

So friend, you keep right on pissing into the wind. See where it gets ya.

For my part, I am diligent in my study of politics, religion and public stupidity by and large. AND… I understand more about the Bible than any of the morons who ever occupied a chair at Watchtower. Why on God’s Earth would I want to use any of their SHYTE.

And BTW, I was at Watchtower HQ the day before the properties were sold to Kushy.

I get around.

So friend, you keep right on ranting.

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

You can’t possibly be that naive…

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

Exciting News.

The capital USA-hole Trump is continuing down the road of self-destruction. He is hating on the Canucks today, alongside the EU. Seems more and more nations hate ‘meriKa.

It will be as Daniel foretold, “there will be NO HELPER for him”. When the time arrives, the King of the South will go on a rampage of annihilation. And he will END.

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

For those who are not the top quality nukular physicz that TD is.

I have been given, and will shortly be given once again, a letter detailing a medical test, so that if I must go through customs into the USA, it will explain why all their radiation detectors went off and practically shut down the border.

Friends I have, have actually gone through this. I avoid the border but some cannot.

Now, imagine that. The radiation detectors at the US border can be set off by my blood, the little tiny bit of tracer radiation IN MY BLOOD.

But TD insists he is all wise, he knowz all. Yes, the US can bomb the shyte outta a nuclear refinement facility and nobody can detect anything LOLOLOLOLOL

Makes one wonder eh… why would the IAEA and Saudi’s even bother monitoring it, why would they even put detection in place?

Maybe TD should be put in charge, his intellect is obviously much higher than anybody in the nukular community.

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

lastmanstanding

River,

Good post. Facts is facts.

Mous guy can learn something from you.

FACTS REIGN

Iran is now more united behind Khamy than ever,

Iran’s NUKE program was put on PAUSE and will resume, but now without IAEA eyeballs lurking.

Iran forced Uncle Sam out from behind the curtain. The Jews were going to get obliterated. Their iron dome was about to turn into a pumpkin as the missiles ran out on the Jew side but not the Iran side.

Net-a-yahoo is now hiding, not just from Iran LOL, but from Jews. HE IS HATED. He is likely to meet his end at the hands of a fellow Jew.

Israeli’s who want Yahoo out, in fact want him in prison, likely sharing a cell with Trumpster. As Israel walks through the rubble, they will make mental plans on how to deal with their own Adolf.

Meantime, the prophecy of Daniel is right on track, and will continue to be correct.

lastmanstanding

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