Posts by lastmanstanding

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Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding the prelude to the great tribulation?

by Disillusioned JW in

is bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding a prelude to the great tribulation?.

full disclosure: i still don't believe in the bible's claims about the existence of the supernatural, even of jehovah god (i'm an atheist and a scientific/philosophical naturalist), but i am asking this question because recent events are starting to seem (to me) to fit well the description of some prophecies in the bible.

consider the following.. several hours ago (on 11-26-2021) as i was about to enter a local fred meyer store of my city (in suburb or small city in the metro area of a large city) a person i know told me that a moment earlier a person left the store in a hurry with a cart load up with unpaid merchandise (i think i was told it was groceries but i don't remember that for sure).

lastmanstanding

Vander

Yes, verses 29-31 are impossible to attach to the first century destruction of Jerusalem. With good reason, that was Jesus describing His coming at Armageddon.
And with that description, He finished answering the second question.
In verse 32, Jesus began a juxtaposition. He compared the end of Jerusalem with the coming of the Son of Man.
About the fall of Jerusalem, Jesus went on to say...

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door [OF JERUSALEM]. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation [HIS OWN GENERATION] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. [TO JERUSALEM] 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

And then He spoke to the coming of the Son of Man,

36 “But about that day or hour [ ARMAGEDDON ] no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

Quite simple actually. About Jerusalem's destruction they were given a sign, for they had to take action, flight from Jerusalem.

In contrast, there will be NO WARNING of His second coming.

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Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding the prelude to the great tribulation?

by Disillusioned JW in

is bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding a prelude to the great tribulation?.

full disclosure: i still don't believe in the bible's claims about the existence of the supernatural, even of jehovah god (i'm an atheist and a scientific/philosophical naturalist), but i am asking this question because recent events are starting to seem (to me) to fit well the description of some prophecies in the bible.

consider the following.. several hours ago (on 11-26-2021) as i was about to enter a local fred meyer store of my city (in suburb or small city in the metro area of a large city) a person i know told me that a moment earlier a person left the store in a hurry with a cart load up with unpaid merchandise (i think i was told it was groceries but i don't remember that for sure).

lastmanstanding

Vander, I went and looked, it's been awhile. Thus begins Jesus' answer to the second question "and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

Matthew 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

This describes perfectly organizations such as Watchtower. They claim their 'works' are signs and they try to deceive even those who are chosen.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

Again, Watchtower has actually taught this as doctrine. He is "invisible" in the "wilderness" and an "inner room(s).

27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Jesus contrasts the false teachings with the truth concerning His coming. Instead of a secret, invisible, "inner room" in the "wilderness", it will be so intense such that nobody will miss it, it will be unmistakable.

28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

The gathering of the elect or chosen explained in the context of the Second Coming.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Jesus will black out the sky, He will turn out the lights. See if mankind can ignore it.
Indeed it must be this way, as the Father gives His son due glory, and all Earth must know.

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Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding the prelude to the great tribulation?

by Disillusioned JW in

is bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding a prelude to the great tribulation?.

full disclosure: i still don't believe in the bible's claims about the existence of the supernatural, even of jehovah god (i'm an atheist and a scientific/philosophical naturalist), but i am asking this question because recent events are starting to seem (to me) to fit well the description of some prophecies in the bible.

consider the following.. several hours ago (on 11-26-2021) as i was about to enter a local fred meyer store of my city (in suburb or small city in the metro area of a large city) a person i know told me that a moment earlier a person left the store in a hurry with a cart load up with unpaid merchandise (i think i was told it was groceries but i don't remember that for sure).

lastmanstanding

Vander, very good. However, that said, Jesus did go on to answer the second question that pertains to the coming of the Son of Man. I believe it happens at Mt 24:17 and Jesus carefully pivots the discussion.

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Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding the prelude to the great tribulation?

by Disillusioned JW in

is bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding a prelude to the great tribulation?.

full disclosure: i still don't believe in the bible's claims about the existence of the supernatural, even of jehovah god (i'm an atheist and a scientific/philosophical naturalist), but i am asking this question because recent events are starting to seem (to me) to fit well the description of some prophecies in the bible.

consider the following.. several hours ago (on 11-26-2021) as i was about to enter a local fred meyer store of my city (in suburb or small city in the metro area of a large city) a person i know told me that a moment earlier a person left the store in a hurry with a cart load up with unpaid merchandise (i think i was told it was groceries but i don't remember that for sure).

lastmanstanding

There's as many scripture twistings in this thread as in the watchtower rag.

The wars and natural event described in the Olivet Discourse, Mt 24, Lu 21, Mark 13 are normal things, and it was in reference to the Jews in the first century that Jesus was speaking to. The things Jesus talked about were not a "sign" but rather an 'anti-sign', things to be ignored.

The actual sign of the Son of Man is the darkening of the sky in its entirety. Literally. Black sky. As if it was "rolled up".

It's gonna get your attention like the MC turning off the lights at your wedding to get everyone to shut up.

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Badge of honor - for apostasy!

by Vidqun in

today, i have attended my jc meeting, courtesy of three local elders.

all three had their "shepherd"-books on their laps.

i carefully and meticulously proved to them that their interpretation of dan.

lastmanstanding

I am amazed also at the number of those who become non-believers but equally amazed at those who accept trinitarianismismismism.

That's a lot of ism.

I feel, if the dubs did anything right, out of all the nonsense and self-serving, self-aggrandizing, it was to accept Arius. Yeah, that's right, they didn't invent non-trinitarianism, Arius had it right and he had it right a long time before Russel.

The trinity is the worst teaching ever. The main thing Satan contended was that Jesus was not "the Word", but just a fellow being that was bullying everyone else. Satan didn't believe in God.

The foundation of Satan's claim was that Jesus made God up, and he was using it to mask his real intention.

So, Jesus consented to be born Son of Man and to die at Satan's hand to prove God was real, and that He, Jesus, was indeed doing what He claimed, to "be sent", to be only "doing the will of the Father" etc.

The trinity undoes the value of Christ's sacrifice.

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Lockdown: 2025 | Full Sci-Fi Thriller Movie | Exclusive to Sci-Fi Central

by lastmanstanding in

please go to youtube and watch this movie.

and read the comments.

see if you come up with the same thing i think.. ps pay attention to the young man quoting the new world translation from matthew 24 about the day of the lord.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfwaldts8c.

lastmanstanding

This movie is just another movie renamed. The original movie is "90 minutes of the fever" from 2016 and I can see many dubs in it.

You may as well just say it's dub propaganda.

The original movie title garnered no accolades. So they renamed it and obviously created dozens of fake youtube accounts to put all kinds of praise in the comments section.

Interestingly, if you look around, other sites host this garbage also. And you can read the same, verbatim, praise comments there.

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Lockdown: 2025 | Full Sci-Fi Thriller Movie | Exclusive to Sci-Fi Central

by lastmanstanding in

please go to youtube and watch this movie.

and read the comments.

see if you come up with the same thing i think.. ps pay attention to the young man quoting the new world translation from matthew 24 about the day of the lord.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfwaldts8c.

lastmanstanding

"Over the years, Houston dated singer Mila J, actress Jennifer Freeman, and costume designer Marlena Campbell."

Jennifer Freeman from the movie dated Marques Houston who is a JW.

That doesn't usually happen unless Freeman is a JW

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Lockdown: 2025 | Full Sci-Fi Thriller Movie | Exclusive to Sci-Fi Central

by lastmanstanding in

please go to youtube and watch this movie.

and read the comments.

see if you come up with the same thing i think.. ps pay attention to the young man quoting the new world translation from matthew 24 about the day of the lord.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfwaldts8c.

lastmanstanding

I did a little research to find a connection. So far, I found that the movie was called "90 minutes of the fever" and was just renamed and reposted everywhere.

Parker McKenna Posey worked side by side with Daymon Wayans who IS a JW.

I am sure that I will find more JWs in this thing.

Just finding out that the same movie by another name was out there and couldn't get any reviews, now it suddenly gets renamed and presto, glowing reviews all around.

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Lockdown: 2025 | Full Sci-Fi Thriller Movie | Exclusive to Sci-Fi Central

by lastmanstanding in

please go to youtube and watch this movie.

and read the comments.

see if you come up with the same thing i think.. ps pay attention to the young man quoting the new world translation from matthew 24 about the day of the lord.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfwaldts8c.

lastmanstanding

Neat blue:

Youtube is not the only one hosting this video. It's all over the internet. And on every site where it's to be found the comments are the same. Glowing reviews, copy and pastes. How's that possible? Are there that many stupid people who are attracted to this particular video? And they all sound alike? Does the second fool who posted his glowing review need to copy and paste the glowing review of the first fool from another site?

The acting sucks. The directing sucks. The storyline sucks. It really sucks. And the acting is just like all the other stiff and wooden crap spewing from watchtower studios.

If you read the comments on youtube, then read the comments on the other hosting sites, they are the same. That's no accident. It smacks of a fix.

60 yrs of it... I know Watchtower stink when I smell it.

WT fingers got to be in there somehow. A little digging will shine some light.

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New World Translation is not much different other translations

by Abraham1 in

key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

lastmanstanding

Check out how the actor, almost certainly a JW, quotes from memory the NWT in this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWfWalDTs8c

Check out the last 5 minutes first.