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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  Wind chimes, rock crystals, makeup, and dancing, the days of the week, the Roman calander. Pretty much anything can be linked to paganism.
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  Cult memories extinguish good memories

  by rebel8 in

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  i have this thing.

  i don't know why it is or how to stop it.

  every time i happen to daydream about something positive from my childhood, some related cult aspect comes to mind and extinguishes it like a candle is being blown out.. for a while, i thought this was anger and resentment causing me to want to find an excuse to be angry (not that i need one).

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  You're not alone in this, rebel8. Happens to me all the time. A lot of my negative memories surface particularly when I'm hormonal or taking certain antibiotics. To the memories that end with me cringing, I like to imagine something really wonderful happening instead, or a bad person doing something I really like.

  It's fun to imagine an alternate ending and can help you not dwell on how bad you felt. For example, I might remember my heinous uncle publicly chastisng me at me at a meeting for being late (actual memory) when suddenly he is struck with a horrible bowel problem and diarrhea explodes from his backside, blowing through the fabric of his suit pants and soaking the CO's wife who happens to be standing, horrified, next to him (my alternate ending to the memory).

  I believe it is Steve Hassan who uses this method to help people deal with bad cult memories, but I could be wrong about that.
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  G Losch Talk - Do Not Hold a Grudge

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a new video on jw org tv titled do not hold a grudge is presented by gb's oldest member gerrit losch.this is just another representation of the standard of talks prepared and given by the highest level of authority and position within the jw organization.

  they desperately need help, not even their complete rebranding can save them from themselves.some of this gb member's gems about holding a grudge include -.

  - what can lead to a grudge?

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  Ugh to this talk. It is so silly. Of course they have to make up rhymes to woo the audience. We're talking about people who watch jdubya.borg for entertainment and follow the lead of cartoons in their worship *ahem* Caleb and Sophia.
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  Hope you enjoy John's comments

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjtx-r5ryfq.

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  I like this guy:) He has the WT pretty much pegged!
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  My wife blew my mind, Seth Andrews, and more....

  by pronomono in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i recently had the opportunity to hear seth andrews speak in person at a local unitarian universalist church.

  for those of you who know my past, i've had a bit of a difficult time dealing with the emotional aspects of a fade with a wife that says she believes but doesn't put forth the works that demonstrate that faith.

  we've kind of been in a rocky point in our relationship because we've both been afraid to test the waters on where each of us stand.

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  Wow! You are one lucky guy. I constantly live in fear of my hubs turning me in. Give her a big hug and kiss and you might need to go buy a lottery ticket.
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

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  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  Dundain,

  Pardon me if you are being serious, but that comment was hysterical..."withered husks of their former selves"...omuhgawd I'm in stitches! 😂😂😂😂
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  What a nightmare.Your SIL...what a horrible, horrible person. She took pictures!? What business does she have snooping around? Moving on, I totally understand you admitting your activity to the gestapo eldubs. But don't offer up anything that they can't tie you to. No one knows if you were going to actually leave the religion or spread dissent within the ranks. At least, no one can prove it.
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  slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

  at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

  in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

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  Wow! Interesting observations SBF. It dawned on me that I've considered entering a Mormon temple about as much I have considered a walk on Mars. I've known a lot of Mormons, had them as neighbors, teachers, co-workers and friends. The whole no caffeine or alcohol is a little too stringent for me, but to each their own.
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  Happy Father's Day

  by azor in

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  2. friends

  just wanted to say happy father's day to all the father's and grandfather's here.

  the reason i left was for my young children and i know i'm not the only one here.

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  For all u dads:

  
  
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  Successful Leaver

  by 2True in

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  2. experiences

  i was raised in the cult, a 'golden boy' in jw about 15 years ago.

  regular pioneer, went to pioneer school and then mts.

  my dad is a gilead graduate and is still a serving elder.

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  Eloquent and genuine explanation of your newfound freedom. You answered with honesty and respect despite his inevitable shunning. Good for you, and nice to have you here.