Posts by Heartsafire

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More bad news for the Organisation in Australia

by no-zombie in

it appears the the commonwealth government is bringing in a national compensation scheme for victims of institutional child sexual abuse with individuals able to claim up to $150,000 each.

it's clear that the australian government will not be able to fund this program without serious money from the offending churches.

so it's bad news for the organization today.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-04/government-announces-redress-for-abuse-victims/7996092.

Heartsafire

Hmm. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. As long is the org gets hit in the wallet (the only thing of slightly higher importance to the gb than their inflated sense of self) the stronger the incentive to revamp their policies.

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Another Subliminal Image? On the JW Website

by The Searcher in

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this image appears on the current main web page - as you scroll the "witnessing" photos.. weird "facial" image at the guy's right shoulder.. .

Heartsafire

Subliminal messages planted within WT pics have been around a long time. But, I do not think this is the case here.

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Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

by pale.emperor in

for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

Heartsafire

Spirituality:

1) level of indoctrination, the more "spiritual" the more indoctrinated

2) measurement jws use to judge/rate submissiveness to the org or a potential apostate, usually detected through subtle conversation sprinkled with recently changed doctrine

Jehovahs blessing:

1) an undefined reward that supposedly comes to jws that suffer for the org--it's never really clear what jehovahs blessing really is, but if you give up your career, your home, your money, and your family to pioneer you apparently receive this

2) absolutely nothing

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

Heartsafire

I can't keep up with the gb flip flopping ways anymore. It's like they don't even consult one another (much less scripture) before declaring their nutty proclamations.

I sincerely hope they'll get rid of the no blood laws because this is most likely to save real lives. However, I'm not holding my breath they'all do anything significant.

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Yoga pants parade to protest a mans comments on women's wear.

by ToesUp in

yoga pants parade.

i guess tight pants tony isn't the only man that needs to get a life!.

Heartsafire

Yoga pants are my second skin. Just as comfy as sweatpants but so much more fashionable.

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Have a pretty interesting story to tell.

by Dexter in

i am new to this site, was always told by my elder father if the site accidentally appeared on the comp screen it was satans doing.

anyways, i am 28 y/m who had the unfortunate life of being the last of three kids to be born ins.

my oldest sibling lasted about 8 years before she was d,f.

Heartsafire

Well, I guess we are Satan's helpers. Haha! Welcome to the forum and good on you for getting an education! Looking forward to hearing more from you.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

Heartsafire

DJS, yeah I know I can be all over the board with my comments. I'm the type that analyzes from every angle good and bad. Never fails to trigger someone or something. Anyway, your comment made me giggle. 😸 You know, crawling through broken glass one...

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JWs- “SCIENCE IS A DISTRACTION TO MY FAITH"

by Giles Gray in

“after our discussion last week i asked myself ‘do i need to go into the depth of science to make sure of what i believe’, and my answer was that i don’t need to go into science because science would be a distraction to what i already know with my faith…”the above is a quote from a conversation i had with two jws who called on me at the weekend.

i knew that the standards of the jws had declined, but what i experienced the weekend really highlighted that fact and it was quite a surprised.amazingly they came back, but this time i had the presence of mind to record the entire visit which is really going to help me examine how these people think.they were coming back on the topic of the evidence of evolution and how this contradicts their interpretation of the bible.

i had sent them an email that dealt with the topic of nature’s vestiges and i asked them to explain the biological atavisms that occur in whales and humans.

Heartsafire

Ridiculously painful to read. I'm embarrassed for them. Good job Giles. While they walk away thinking they are 'right' they now have learned a few basics of evolution (and even natural science) from which to build a foundation of real truth.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

Heartsafire

Let me get this straight...now that she got her way, abandoned you when you were found out, went along with her crazy dad/family, and hangs with the disapproving elders she has a sudden change of heart and thinks you were right all along?

Sounds like a real piece of work to me! It could be that she wants you back and is missing your company. Sometimes it takes losing the best thing you ever had to realize you were wrong. Perhaps that is her experience.

Maybe you can help her get out and fade. This is certainly your daughter's best hope at having a cult-free life.

I understand you have started a new relationship, however, it would be rather romantic to court your ex-wife all over again--this time as "worldly" persons;-)

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Catholic Approach to Scripture: How It Made Me Leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Hernandez in

indoctrinated into all things watchtower, i once believed the bible was true history, that evolution was false and evil, and that the bible could be trusted to be reliable when it touched on science issues.

then i got introduced to the official catholic bible translation of u.s. catholics, the new american bible revised edition (or nabre--not to be confused with the protestant nasv or new american standard version) and things changed.

i was shocked to learn that the nabre teaches.... the creation and flood stories of genesis are jewish adaptations of mesopotamian heathen creation-flood mythology, not history.

Heartsafire

Hernandez, I am one of those people who was helped by Catholic charities while having the JW's turn their back on me. All false views and historical murders aside (thanks oppostate) I wish the JW's would learn from the organization they hate so well known as the Catholic Church. At least the Catholics admit they are wrong about some stuff and have policies to prevent repetition of things like child abuse. Meanwhile, JW's keep blaming the victims and hiding the evidence.

Anyway, I'm not really religious. I'm just saying what I have seen and experienced.

When I was waking up I started browsing other religious websites. It was shocking to learn that I had no clue what Catholics really believed but had possessed the gall to argue with them at the doors over their own beliefs! I have some of those regrets where you think back and just want to kick yourself for being such an idiot. 😝