Posts by Heartsafire

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Hi forum

by A Believer in

i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.

i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.

i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.

That's a great question Believer, do JWs really have the truth? I recommend you research information outside of the JWs to truly decide for yourself. You would not buy a car from an auto dealer unless you did all the research both good and bad. Why would you take the JWs info at face value in choosing a faith? I recommend a book called "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan. He never was a JW, so not to worry he is not apostate. However, this book helps people identify what a cult is, and then you will have the tools you need to decide if the JWs stack up to all their own hype or if they really are a cult as millions of people claim.

There is a wealth of information that can help you gain a stronger grasp on JWs that you cannot find from them. Again, its kind of like shopping for a car in that no car dealership is going to tell you how bad their vehicles are, how many times they have been recalled, or how many people have died due to faulty vehicle manufacturing.

Also, it is easy to poo-poo others concerns over the JWs because JWs routinely train their members in the art of something called "overcoming objections" where common objections are dismissed with a common answer. While it can be an effective marketing tool, it does little to address real problems that people experience with the org. It's kind of like if you asked a car salesman about the recalls on the vehicle he is selling and instead of addressing the question honestly, he/she tells you their company is the only car company produced worldwide and with a certain saftey accolade.

In response to your reply to me about JWs being the only ones globally preaching, again you are mistaken. That would be the Catholics who are in more countries than you know. And, the preaching work wasn't the command that Christ gave to his followers. He expressed his command very clearly by saying "This is my command: Love one another" in the book of John Chapter 15. Read the whole chapter, not just one verse as the JWs do.

Finally, this will be my last response to you as I sense you are only on this website to stir the pot. All the best to you, and good luck in your search for real truth.

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Hi forum

by A Believer in

i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.

i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.

i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.

Heartsafire

JWs are not the only "Christian" group that goes door-to-door. I have had mormons come to my door as well as two other people from nearby churches. All of the massive evangelical mega-churches send missionaries all over the world. So, if you feel that JWs are the only true Christians because they go door-to-door preaching, then you are sadly mistaken because they are not the only ones who do this.

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Help with fading, please...

by longgone in

i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.

i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.

i'm another born in, third generation.

Heartsafire

Not alone, I'm sorry I think my fat thumbs down voted you. didn't mean to!

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Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

by pale.emperor in

for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

Heartsafire

@schnell

Nice catch!

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Fudging The Numbers JW Style

by pale.emperor in

i know most of us have probably figured this out already, but remember the good old days where you could only count full hours in the ministry?.

then one of the gb get some "new light" from their ass and proclaim that they lovingly will allow people to report 30mins, then even 15mins of time.

this was, supposedly, so that the old and infirm could have a joy in the ministry and report what little they could do.

Heartsafire

I used to beat myself up as a jw over things like rarely reaching the "national average" each month or not ever finding time to read the magazines I was trying to place.

Then I married an eldub in training and realized how loose-y goose-y he was with his field service reports. And this coming from an entire family of pionerds.

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More bad news for the Organisation in Australia

by no-zombie in

it appears the the commonwealth government is bringing in a national compensation scheme for victims of institutional child sexual abuse with individuals able to claim up to $150,000 each.

it's clear that the australian government will not be able to fund this program without serious money from the offending churches.

so it's bad news for the organization today.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-04/government-announces-redress-for-abuse-victims/7996092.

Heartsafire

Hmm. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. As long is the org gets hit in the wallet (the only thing of slightly higher importance to the gb than their inflated sense of self) the stronger the incentive to revamp their policies.

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Another Subliminal Image? On the JW Website

by The Searcher in

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friends

this image appears on the current main web page - as you scroll the "witnessing" photos.. weird "facial" image at the guy's right shoulder.. .

Heartsafire

Subliminal messages planted within WT pics have been around a long time. But, I do not think this is the case here.

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Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

by pale.emperor in

for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

Heartsafire

Spirituality:

1) level of indoctrination, the more "spiritual" the more indoctrinated

2) measurement jws use to judge/rate submissiveness to the org or a potential apostate, usually detected through subtle conversation sprinkled with recently changed doctrine

Jehovahs blessing:

1) an undefined reward that supposedly comes to jws that suffer for the org--it's never really clear what jehovahs blessing really is, but if you give up your career, your home, your money, and your family to pioneer you apparently receive this

2) absolutely nothing

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

Heartsafire

I can't keep up with the gb flip flopping ways anymore. It's like they don't even consult one another (much less scripture) before declaring their nutty proclamations.

I sincerely hope they'll get rid of the no blood laws because this is most likely to save real lives. However, I'm not holding my breath they'all do anything significant.

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Yoga pants parade to protest a mans comments on women's wear.

by ToesUp in

yoga pants parade.

i guess tight pants tony isn't the only man that needs to get a life!.

Heartsafire

Yoga pants are my second skin. Just as comfy as sweatpants but so much more fashionable.