how many have read the report 1034 from nazi germany?.
this was hitlers thought that jw's were preaching.
the bible and not giving in to him as the rc's and other .
I realize that in Canada & the US, as well as most European countries, the JWs were not allowed to go in the army during WWII...but I think Kent was trying to tell us that in Germany that may not have been the case for some JWs. Maybe it was their patriotic duty...who knows.
I'll wait for Kent to elaborate on the army issue.
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i just noticed that there's a brci conference (the one that amazing says he will attending) in the city i live in.. could anyone tell me exactly what a bfci conference is?.
i would be even more grateful if anyone could tell me where in waterloo it is (it's likely at uw or wlu).. if it would be of benefit to me, i'm sure i would want to attend.. thanks,.
jeremy.
Thanks HadEnough!
I just e-mailed you regarding the start time, so don't worry about replying to me there... LOL
Thanks again, and maybe we'll bump into each other tomorrow,
:-)
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
how many have read the report 1034 from nazi germany?.
this was hitlers thought that jw's were preaching.
the bible and not giving in to him as the rc's and other .
Hi Kent,
I didn't realize that JWs served in the army during WWII. As far as I knew (from JW literature of course), they stopped serving in the army after WWI, and that was part of the reason that they were chosen as the one true religion by Jesus in 1919, or something like that.
Can you provide any more info on JWs serving in the army during WWII?
Thanks Kent...and as always, you provide A LOT of us with a wealth of information that is really appreciated!
Sincerely,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i just noticed that there's a brci conference (the one that amazing says he will attending) in the city i live in.. could anyone tell me exactly what a bfci conference is?.
i would be even more grateful if anyone could tell me where in waterloo it is (it's likely at uw or wlu).. if it would be of benefit to me, i'm sure i would want to attend.. thanks,.
jeremy.
I'd like to attend the BRCI conference in Waterloo tomorrow.
Does anyone know if I have to have been registered in advance, or can anyone just show up? Also, what time do the sessions start?
Thanks in advance,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i remember every time i had to renew my blood card my book study conductor always told the group that in case of a medical emergency if the doctor asks why you dont want to accept blood transfusion we should never say that because the watchtower says so.
he told us that we should say that we dont want blood transfusion because it is our religious conviction.. i was a little bit upset about this because i know i would never come to that conclusion on my own.
i accepted this do to the fact that the watchtower pressured me to do so.
Regarding the blood issue and what the WTS refers to as apostates, the general rule the WTS follows (IMHO):
Whatever issues the WTS cannot defend against by using the Bible openly and honestly as it's source, it will try to discredit by labelling anyone that has opposing viewpoints as apostate, thus using its authority to make the ears deaf among its rank & file members.
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i remember every time i had to renew my blood card my book study conductor always told the group that in case of a medical emergency if the doctor asks why you dont want to accept blood transfusion we should never say that because the watchtower says so.
he told us that we should say that we dont want blood transfusion because it is our religious conviction.. i was a little bit upset about this because i know i would never come to that conclusion on my own.
i accepted this do to the fact that the watchtower pressured me to do so.
I pretty much had the same experience as you did.
But I often wondered about it, since I remembered that the 1983 Awake (I believe it was June 22) had a list of permitted blood components and restricted blood components for JWs. On the other hand, the Blood Card, said NO blood at all. Hmmm....
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
PS. Anyone going to the BRCI conference this weekend in Waterloo, Ontario?
i wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.
unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.
please simply give an answer, without extended comments.
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how many have read the report 1034 from nazi germany?.
this was hitlers thought that jw's were preaching.
the bible and not giving in to him as the rc's and other .
Just bringing it to the top...
it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?
for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .
thanks.
Born into it also. My dad was born into it and so was my mom. They both left years before I finally saw the light and came out of this destructive cult.
I married in the cult, and my wife had also been born in it. She was a pioneer, so she was out almost every day. I averaged between 15 to 20 hours in service, had 3 bible studies (more than she did), did the magazines, did microphones, picked up the literature for the congregation I was in. Any other wife would have been very happy with me, since I was on my way to becoming an MS.
Yet, my pioneer wife would still get upset if I came home from my full time work, and I didn't go out in service with her. While not going into details about how upset she would get, I ended up calling in the elders and asking them to remove her from being a pioneer, since there was no way she could go out and tell others how to live their lives, when she didn't pracice that. She was removed.
That, and other things that she did (after we got married) made my mind up to break up with her. I still believed in the WTS at that time, but I didn't want to be married to someone that I didn't love anymore, for the rest of my life.
While trying to get back in, I took a friend's chalenge to research certain things, just to prove to him that the WTS was right. Imagine my surprise when I found out otherwise. That made me research things even more, and also made me read Ray Franz's books...and then I saw the light.
It's like having the rug pulled out from under your feet, finding out that the religion you thought was the only true religion in the world...to be false. Everything crumbled.
But then...I really started living, and finding out things for myself, instead of blindly believing what a group of old men in Brooklyn that call themselves the "faithfull and discreet slave" spout as inspired words from God.
That's the short of my story,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
how many have read the report 1034 from nazi germany?.
this was hitlers thought that jw's were preaching.
the bible and not giving in to him as the rc's and other .
Ooops...here's the link to Kent's website, directly to the letter sent to the German government.
