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  Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

  by cofty in

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  i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

  answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

  1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Interesting article Recovering. As usual talk origins has addressed most of this creationist nonsense. I really cannot get my head around how anyone can take creationism seriously when the people forwarding these ideas are so clearly being dishonest with how they are presenting data.

  As an aside with regards to this myth of a global flood let's leave the science aside and let hooberus explain how it is that other civilisations (The Chinese most notably) failed to notice that their entire empire was under water for nearly a year. Why did they not think that this sort of weather was worthy of recording down? Was it a normal occurrence for them?
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

  answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

  1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "Creation Research Society Quarterly" - Hooberus

  Why not publish in a geologically focused peer reviewed press? It would come to the attention of far more experts in the field and have a greater chance of altering the current thinking. That's assuming that:

  1 - The science is applied correctly and the conclusions fit the evidence.

  2 - That is what the authors of these pieces wish to happen rather than furthering their own creationist agendas away from critical analysis of their research...
  
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

  answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

  1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "If all this geological evidence of "deep time" speaks for itself, then why was there a need to come up first with the "principal" (apriori philosophy) of Uniformitarianism" - Hooberus

  Uniformitarianism is, in essence, saying that the key to understanding past geological events comes from observing events taking place today (or in the 18-19th century when these principles were being developed). The assumption being that what is occurring now (then) has always occurred. Observations showed that sedimentary deposition takes place uniformly for a given location and extrapolating from that shows us that extremely thick beds of lithified sedimentary strata indicates vast periods of deposition. It was these observations that led early geologist to realise that the Earth was vastly older than the few thousands of years that had been accepted up until then. Geology has moved on since then but these principles are still valid, the difference now being we have many lines of evidence backing up these principles...

  Perhaps if you understood these principles better you could answer your own questions?
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

  answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

  1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "if you are so comfortable with your convictions why the incessant need to convince correct others can I expect a call at my door anytime soon" - LBT

  There you go. Perhaps you understand the reasons now that I have adjusted your thinking...
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

  answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

  1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  hooberus -

  Uniformitarianism is a principle of Geology for sure. However it is not left to the assumption that this principle is true (Hutton, like Darwin..., lived in the 19th century and we have learnt a lot more since then and proven a lot of the assumptions that were initially made by the pioneers in science) when working out ages of strata and considering geological features such as unconformities. Such ideas that these formations could have formed in months is ludicrous for many reasons.

  Consider an angular unconformity where the underlying strata is at a different angle to the layers above. The only way that could happen is if the entire formation under the unconformity were to have been tilted. The does not happen on the surface (and if it did the energy needed would destroy the entire rock formation instead of tilting the various strata in situ).

  You also left out subduction in your 'explanation'. This is the process where those sedimentary layers sink lower into the crust due to the build up of layers upon them. When they are deep enough they are then lithified due to the pressure and temperatures that they encounter at such depths (the pressures and movements so deep in the Earth also twist and turn these strata...). After a long while the environment changes and the area of overlain strata then experiences a period of erosion and when the upper layers disappear this allows the older layers to raise back up to the surface (the crust floats on the mantle...).

  Geological features that occur under flood conditions do not cause unconformities of the nature you describe. Geological features of the sort required for a global flood would be very easy to find. There are none.... However we have got evidence of a massive asteroid strike from around 65 million years ago. A strike that hit a small part of the world yet left traces of the resulting explosion all around the world.

  Consider:

  1 - An asteroid hitting the Earth just off the coast of South America leaves evidence in the rock formations all around the globe.

  2 - A Global flood that buried the entire Earth under water leaves no trace at all.

  Which is the myth?
  
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  Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

  by cofty in

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  if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

  just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

  it would be good to show that this is not the case..

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  "...Their work is more objective and trustworthy particularly "...Ruby456

  Ruby this is what you said, thus demonstrating that you think personal bias influence scientific consensus. As I said this demonstrates your lack of understanding with regards to how science works and progresses rendering the rest of your idea pointless to respond to i.e. they are based on a false understanding of reality (based on your latest post, do you even understand what supernatural means?) and you should address that gap in your knowledge first.

  Hardly a playground insult...
  
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  Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

  just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

  it would be good to show that this is not the case..

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  "...Their work is more objective and trustworthy particularly "...Ruby456

  Yet again in the space of a mere sentence the level of knowledge of science clearly shines through! I'm not going to lump you into the category that people like Perry dwell but be honest with yourself and think about how many scientific research papers you have read. However if you are referring to books that the likes of Richard Dawkins have written I can understand your comment in part but then writing popular science books is not how science progresses and my initial point remains.
  
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

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  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "I'm not asking him to start with a human .... just a lowly bug - a caterpillar" - Perry

  Another example of this trolls ignorance: assuming that humans are the most complex of creatures...
  
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Perry - All of Cofty's posts have many links to scholarly research. You could spend a bit of time reading them...

  Or you could keep on mashing the keyboard with your head and hope enough of the resulting mess of characters will somehow cause the reader's mind to melt.
  
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "One of the problems is that you lack knowledge of the most basic science so describing complex stuff..." - Cofty
  

  Well considering that he uses words like "liquefies" and "goo" to describe this process I would suggest that you are correct in your assumption.

  Perry - Perhaps you should pray for enlightenment! That should work...